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Whiting is it really White Trout?
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RAT_RED
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:44 pm    Post subject: Whiting is it really White Trout? Reply with quote

Ok, I am from Alabama been fishing here for awhile and I noticed you guys got a name for a trout I am not use to hearing. First I noticed you have whiting is that what people from LA,MS,AL and FL call white trout? White trout are silver in color caught throughtout the bays and waterways and if you goto a shallow rig 5 miles out they can get as large as speckled trout. They are good in taste back home and are the norm when it comes to panfish thats usually fried.

Next, anyone ever heard of a ground mullet aka southern kingfish? Its really not a mullet, but I caught one and a guy was like oh that a (whatever he said) and i'm like no its a ground mullet buddy.
http://www.rodnreel.com/gulffish/gulffish.asp?cmd=view&FishID=88
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

now i just learned southern kingfish aka ground mullet is also called whiting, however bit this is a pic of what whe call white trout http://www.rodnreel.com/gulffish/gulffish.asp?cmd=view&FishID=210
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First fish picture is a whiting. Very common in the surf. There are more than one species here, but everything is lumped into "whiting".

Second picture is a sand trout. Or a silver sea trout, depending on where you caught it. Very Happy Inshore and the beach, it is a sand trout. Farther offshore, it is a silver sea trout.

The biggest difference is the pigment patch on the tongue. One has orange color that goes across the whole surface of the tongue, the other only has the orange around the margin of the tongue.

Technically, sand trout Cynoscion arenarius, silver sea trout Cynoscion nothus. Sand trout are far more common for most fisherman. O.K. to eat, so long as you get them on ice quickly, as they don't keep as well as spotted sea trout. Don't put them in the freezer, as they turn very mushy. Same for silver sea trout, fresh only.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The silver trout that you call white trout are called gulf trout in Texas. There are three species of kingfish found in Texas. They are the northern kingfish (king whiting), the southern kingfish (sea mullet), and the gulf kingfish (gulf whiting). They are usually referred to collectively as "whiting".
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right the second picture is NOT a sand trout, but a seatrout or white trout.
THIS IS A SAND TROUT http://www.rodnreel.com/gulffish/gulffish.asp?cmd=view&FishID=78
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Central Scrutinizer wrote:
First fish picture is a whiting. Very common in the surf. There are more than one species here, but everything is lumped into "whiting".

Second picture is a sand trout. Or a silver sea trout, depending on where you caught it. Very Happy Inshore and the beach, it is a sand trout. Farther offshore, it is a silver sea trout.

The biggest difference is the pigment patch on the tongue. One has orange color that goes across the whole surface of the tongue, the other only has the orange around the margin of the tongue.

Technically, sand trout Cynoscion arenarius, silver sea trout Cynoscion nothus. Sand trout are far more common for most fisherman. O.K. to eat, so long as you get them on ice quickly, as they don't keep as well as spotted sea trout. Don't put them in the freezer, as they turn very mushy. Same for silver sea trout, fresh only.


Sorry CS, you have already demonstrated you have an I.Q. greater than anyone here is this forum...and anyone outside the Bluff for that matter. I am vigorously petitioning Tyler to have you removed immediately. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No that last trout is a grouper bait and the first one is a Bull red & small black tip bait. LOL Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

C.S. COULD BE ONE OF THE SMARTEST FINGER MULLETS THIS SITE HAS EVER HAD, TYLER MUST BE ADVERTISING OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BALZTOWAL wrote:
C.S. COULD BE ONE OF THE SMARTEST FINGER MULLETS THIS SITE HAS EVER HAD, TYLER MUST BE ADVERTISING OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.


Would you believe that I am a true "Bluffian", so much so, I was born at the Naval Hospital way back when the hospital was located where the expanded golf course resides now on base. Graduated from FB High too!!! Sad part is, I don't own a single pair of white shrimp boots, BUT I have been seen in HEB without shoes on. Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

May I ask what year you graduated?

Me 1980
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Central Scrutinizer wrote:
BALZTOWAL wrote:
C.S. COULD BE ONE OF THE SMARTEST FINGER MULLETS THIS SITE HAS EVER HAD, TYLER MUST BE ADVERTISING OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.


Would you believe that I am a true "Bluffian", so much so, I was born at the Naval Hospital way back when the hospital was located where the expanded golf course resides now on base. Graduated from FB High too!!! Sad part is, I don't own a single pair of white shrimp boots, BUT I have been seen in HEB without shoes on. Razz


wow you must be old..lol i dnt even remember the hospital being where the golf course is now.. i live now across from the pond where billie jeans brother got his fag mobile got taken from him..wasnt even a nieghborhood back then.. was almost in the movie but my parents didnt let me. i was 15
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i live now across from the pond where billie jeans brother got his fag mobile got taken from him
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chef Lefty wrote:
May I ask what year you graduated?


1982. So I suppose that does make me sorta old.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WHOA! yall are old haha! do any of you bluff graduates know any O'Briens?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BIG LONG wrote:
WHOA! yall are old haha! do any of you bluff graduates know any O'Briens?


I have two daughters that have played Little Miss Kickball for many years, so yes, I know the O'Brien clan.
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