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RPool
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Oil Field Trash II and Bluffer said.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bluffer wrote:
Bring em on with a few oil wells in between. Anything to lower my energy bill I welcome!...This aint the 70s no more.


Hey, we through an oil emnargo in the 70's, or are ya too old to remember? Laughing Gotta keep that from happening again.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big John wrote:
Bluffer wrote:
Bring em on with a few oil wells in between. Anything to lower my energy bill I welcome!...This aint the 70s no more.


Hey, we through an oil emnargo in the 70's, or are ya too old to remember? Laughing Gotta keep that from happening again.

I know, another reason to drill here, no more embargo by Opec.
The technology today you dont see gusher spill wells either! Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:24 am    Post subject: Wind Farm Reply with quote

And just in view on the horizon behind the wells that are behind the turbines a nice clean nuclear cooling tower..... all contributing to cheaper energy and stable balanced economy and increased tax revenues.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RPool wrote:
What Oil Field Trash II and Bluffer said.


+Juan

I'd certainly prefer to have the landscape remain intact and unspoiled (or rather, no more spoiled). But, I'm also a realist. Bring em on.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DBE1982 wrote:
the ones at the port aren't for anywhere near us


you sure about that? check out the link below


http://www.wind-watch.org/news/2007/03/14/port-of-corpus-christi-approves-wind-farm-study/
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:07 am    Post subject: fuel Reply with quote

i hope i live long enough to hear America tell certain trade partners to eat & drink your oil, and we will keep our grains for ourselves. we have put up with your hefer dust long enough.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being that only 2% of our electricity is produced from oil building all of these windmill farms and nuke plants isn't going to cut our oil consumption. 90% of the oil we use is tied directly to transportation. Now if you can figure how to mount a windmill on top of your car then you have something to cut oil imports. I've been a lot of places that have windmill farms and they really don't screw up the view. We need to place some around congress with all the hot air that comes out of that building we could power the country.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe someone can enlighten me, but I can't understand why there's such an investment in wind power now - unless it's the subsidies.

One of the previous post made a good point about the need for alternative, back up power supply for the wind farms. Electric grids need a constant, dependable, predictable supply of electricity. Wind power currently is not.

Nationally, the amount of wind energy that actually makes it to the grid is only 10% of the available supply. In Texas it's 17%. So that means while the windmills are turning, a coal plant is still running 80%-90% of the time.

I would love for wind power to be a real alternative, but they're going to have to figure out a way to store the unused energy to be available on a more reliable basis. There are some ideas about storing it as compressed air, ect but nothing feasible yet. I guess if you build it, someone will figure it out later.

I hope there's a real future for wind energy and it's not just a gov't subsidy grab...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why? because the energy cost to create wind electricity is $.00. Once you have the equipment, it's done, unlike fossil fuels, you have the equipment, then you have to pay for the source. Not so w/ wind. Bring it on. BTW, I think they should put a bunch about a mile or two out in the Gulf That would make for some awsome offshore structure and help the environment. Not to mention, it will really cut my paddle time down on those offshore kayak trips... Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

porkfetus wrote:
DBE1982 wrote:
the ones at the port aren't for anywhere near us


you sure about that? check out the link below


http://www.wind-watch.org/news/2007/03/14/port-of-corpus-christi-approves-wind-farm-study/


positive, as i know people that are escorting them outta here. That article says a study, doesnt say anything about putting up and windmills
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In case you hadn't seen this plan. It's not perfect, but can we really afford the dollars pumped out of this country for foreign fuel on an ongoing basis?

http://www.pickensplan.com/

No need to strap windmills to our cars. We'll figure out storage. And while the shift to natural gas and wind is not a cure all, it's movement in the right direction IMO. Screw OPEC.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want my own personal wind turbine just big enough to power my house.
Man they are so expensive. I have enough wind to live off of wind. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oil Field Trash II wrote:
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for the life of me, I don't understand how a bird can't see a 100 foot long by 5 foot wide blade going about .004 MPH....


Uh, the tip speed of the blades is quite fast. Even if they are spinning at 1 RPM, the tip speed would be pi*diameter*rotational velocity = 2*pi*400 feet/minute = 2512 feet / min = 28.5 mph. Roughly speaking, 30 mph per RPM for 400-foot blades. I wouldn't want to get hit by it.

-Michael
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Lost Cajun
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gonefishing wrote:
Oil Field Trash II wrote:
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for the life of me, I don't understand how a bird can't see a 100 foot long by 5 foot wide blade going about .004 MPH....


Uh, the tip speed of the blades is quite fast. Even if they are spinning at 1 RPM, the tip speed would be pi*diameter*rotational velocity = 2*pi*400 feet/minute = 2512 feet / min = 28.5 mph. Roughly speaking, 30 mph per RPM for 400-foot blades. I wouldn't want to get hit by it.

-Michael


How many birds do you see get hit by cars traveling 30 MPH? There a lot more birds flying 5 feet off the ground than there are flying 100 to 200 feet in the air and more cars than we will ever have wind turbines. I for one don't buy it.
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