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The Trash Heap Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 1932 Location: Corpus Christi
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:56 am Post subject: Failure to Communicate |
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In the face of such arguments coming from a business leader and even from the president of the CC Chamber of Commerce itself, it would be especially strange if the CC City Council didn't reconsider Ordinance 026717 for the charter amendment tomorrow. Nonetheless, that may be exactly what happens if there isn't a big turnout from the business community to protest. Those requesting reconsideration of the other ordinance affecting the beaches, 026716, are resigned to being ignored, and thus automatically being granted the right to petition for a referendum against the 7400-foot closure, but I'm still hoping to avoid two petition drives. It's not just the extra loss of time and the inconvenience to which each citizen must then be subjected, but all the times the petitioners will have to explain how many different ways the majority of the City Council is just as unfair to those providing the signatures as it is to businesses. The upside of that endless explanation is that maybe the listeners will vote against the offending council persons, or their spouses, the next time their surnames appear on a ballot.
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Letters to the Editor: 04.10.06
April 10, 2006
Wrong move
I applaud the Corpus Christi Chamber of Commerce's challenge to the City Council's plan to propose a charter amendment requiring all future beach restrictions on Padre Island to be decided by public vote.
Closing the beach now by council vote for one developer, and then forcing other developers to be at the mercy of the public later, is unfair and bad business.
As a current member of Leadership Corpus Christi Class 34, a program sponsored by the Chamber of Commerce and the Chamber of Commerce Foundation, I have been exposed to business owners and entrepreneurs who are passionate about their businesses and their livelihoods. They are committed to creating a better quality of life in Corpus Christi because our community has allowed them to try, to fail, to succeed and ultimately to build a piece of ownership in the local economy.
Voting to close the beach now amidst controversy, but requiring the public to vote on beach restrictions later, indicates a tone of unfair competition to other businesses wanting to invest and contribute to our local economy. They will remember this beach closure issue, its strange and atypical history, and choose to grow prosperous economic roots elsewhere.
Omar Lopez _________________ The Trash Heap Has Spoken!
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crab_n_fisher Member White Shrimper Boot Club

Joined: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 600 Location: Texas/Alaska
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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I got the title to your thread, Johnny..... Winston Churchill!!!
It was also quoted in a famous Guns N Roses rock song known as "Civil War."
"What we have got here, is a failure to communicate!" |
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BJ Finger Mullet
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| crab_n_fisher wrote: |
It was also quoted in a famous Guns N Roses rock song known as "Civil War."
"What we have got here, is a failure to communicate!" |
that was from Cool Hand Luke |
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crab_n_fisher Member White Shrimper Boot Club

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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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BJ???
I've never been a fan of Churchill but just remembered the quote growing up.....I'd always assumed the radio dj was correct, letting us know the lyrics were from England?! ..... Thank you for the correction.  |
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BJ Finger Mullet
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| i should clarify...Churchil DID say something about "failure to communicate" i guess...however, the clip at the beginning of the GNR song is lifted directly from the movie Cool Hand Luke (great movie by the way if you haven't seen it) |
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Tyler Site Admin

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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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Here is an LTTE I just sent to the Caller Times
From Brandi Dean's Caller Times Online article it states
"Members of "It's About Time Corpus Christi" include the Corpus Christi Association of Realtors, the Corpus Christi Chamber of Commerce, the Corpus Christi Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, the Padre Island Business Association and the Regional Economic Development Corp., among others."
It is funny how those who don't stand to profit in this are blamed as "againers".
We at BAC are not against development we are just against making the general public having to jump through hoops to gain access to public property that their tax dollars helped to fund.
The City of San Antonio, a shining example Corpus Christi would like to be like's newspaper, The San Antonio Express News Editorial Board, says that our City Council should go back to the drawing board about the Intrawest Development to restrict public access to the Packery South Jetty.
Let's hope the general public sees this for what it is - a land grab by a few to make a few dollars for a select group of the population. If this really was about a pedestrian safe environment those pushing this would only have to go to Mustang Island State Park or the 4.5 miles of pedestrian only beach at the Malaquite Visitor's Center at the Padre Island National Seashore. That facility is underutilized and even on the busiest holiday weekends, if you walked about 200 yards from the entrance you would see it is so empty you could shoot off a shotgun and not hit anybody. Why? Because of ice chest segregation, that is as far as anyone can walk with all of their gear to enjoy a day at the beach. That is what the developer's want - a quasi-private beach. If they didn't then they would stick to the original TIF plan that had 140 parking spaces and a park at the South Jetty that the citizens of Texas and of Corpus Christi could use to access Packery Channel. They would not even accept this proposal even with a "pedestrian friendly" beach on the rest of the 7200 feet of land. Get ready for more beach vehicle restrictions because if this one passes there is no stopping it.
Restricting access by the locals and those not paying to stay in the resort is immoral and no dollar signs in the eyes of a few that stand to profit from it makes it right.
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The Trash Heap Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 1932 Location: Corpus Christi
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:37 pm Post subject: Right, BJ |
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it's part of Strother Martin's famous line from Cool Hand Luke: "What we have here (pause) is failure to communicate." _________________ The Trash Heap Has Spoken!
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Bluffer Full Grown Flour Bluffian

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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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Expect funded TV commercials from the foot group if it has to go up for public vote, can we get greenpeace to back this? If we did fundraisers for airtime doubt it would be enough. _________________ -STAY THIRSTY MY FRIENDS!- |
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BJ Finger Mullet
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Tyler wrote: |
It is funny how those who don't stand to profit in this are blamed as "againers".
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what does that part mean?
what's an againer?
Good call about Malaquite. I hope they don't print that letter because I go there often with my family...i'd hate for your letter to clue in 190,000 readers to that beach just jokin...sort of  |
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rabbit Full Grown Flour Bluffian

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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:26 am Post subject: |
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| BJ wrote: | | Tyler wrote: |
It is funny how those who don't stand to profit in this are blamed as "againers".
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what does that part mean?
what's an againer?
Good call about Malaquite. I hope they don't print that letter because I go there often with my family...i'd hate for your letter to clue in 190,000 readers to that beach just jokin...sort of  |
AGAINERS - 1. Those who are considered perverts, alcoholics, always in trouble with the FBI. Those against Liers and Greedy people with visions of dollar signs dancing in there heads. _________________ Fishing and Kayaking its a rough life but somebody has to do it. |
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crab_n_fisher Member White Shrimper Boot Club

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Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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BJ,
I sent this URL/link to my mother. She was born in 1944 and went to every John Wayne movie she could......And, yes, as you could guess, she knew this quote was from Cool Hand Luke! .....Even though it starred, according to her, Paul Newman!
Don't get me wrong, I love old movies -- much more so than the drugs-sex-crime crap we have today......
The best movies are "old".....better yet, timeless.....If this were another site, I'd love for some recommendations!
(Ok, 30 minute Ted Nugent hunting videos do not qualify, nor does 30 minute Jimmy Houston bass or crappie vids! LOL ....nice try, freaks!)  |
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Tyler Site Admin

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Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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BJ - Againers are people whom they classify are against everything.
TT |
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crab_n_fisher Member White Shrimper Boot Club

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Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:00 pm Post subject: ok, funny pm post!!!!!! |
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LOL,
Someone sent me a PM, letting me on to read "The Old Man and the Sea" .....Sorry, already read that book in 10th grade! This is a Hemingway novel....He won some big prizes for this work! ..... Was it ever a movie? ....
I bet Hemmingway had Oz in mind, being hooked up to such a world class record! |
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The Trash Heap Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 1932 Location: Corpus Christi
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Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:42 am Post subject: 1958 |
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Yep, they made a movie of the short story, with Spencer Tracy as The Old Man.
One morning when my corps school bunk mates were serving at the mess line, I ate 18 eggs sunnyside, 4 slices of bacon, and a piece of French toast for breakfast, but wouldn't you know the toast turned my stomach, so I quit far short of Cool Hand's accomplishment. Which reminds me.... _________________ The Trash Heap Has Spoken!
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BJ Finger Mullet
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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:48 am Post subject: |
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| BJ wrote: | | Tyler wrote: |
It is funny how those who don't stand to profit in this are blamed as "againers".
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...I hope they don't print that letter because I go there often with my family...i'd hate for your letter to clue in 190,000 readers to that beach just jokin...sort of  |
guess i won't be going to Malaquite this weekend...
you were in today's paper |
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