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ezmoney
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You said it is a bay boat and the bay is a great place for it. If you are wondering about how far to take it off shore it sounds like you are not an experianced boater and should not be off shore in a bay boat. It can be done but you need to have the right safety gear. Just look at the 3 guys that were stranded for 7 days off shore. That could have happened 20 miles off shore. Their safety gear was not in a place that was readily accessable and they were in a 23' cat. The boat does not determine if you can/should go offshore it is your experiance, weather conditions, judgement and condition of the boat and crew. I have picked up plenty of people out of the water in the gulf from 16' boats to 40+ and mostly on calm days and most of the time the causes were avoidable if a little more thought would have gone in to the planning of the trip/evolution.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure if a 22' Mako would be considered a bay boat, but pearls of wisdom by mrbacklash.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Put Mr Backlash! Very Happy
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Fish0157
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive been to the close rigs out of Packery on a 18foot pathfinder, granted it had a nice new Suzuki on it, but who knows. How far would you take it? Im sure a 22foot mako could make it out there on a hot,flat summer day.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMHO, experience and good sense count for way more that the type or length of boat. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen bay boats in the 22 ft. range over 25 miles offshore with 5 or more people. It may be calm flat in the morning, but you get fishing and that afternoon that ol' SE wind starts blowing and well you will be lucky to go 5 mph. You do the math, that's a long boat ride home. Another big concern is most bay boats don't have the fuel capacity. Always use the 1/3 rule for fuel. 1/3 to get there, 1/3 to get back and 1/3 for reserve. I also seen bay boats farther out on dead flat day past 50 miles. I prefer a little more freeboard on a boat going offshore, but hey that's just me. SM Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure you have a VHF radio if going offshore for sure.....PLanning is the key. Spare battery, Kicker motor helps to.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say run your boat in the Laguna Madre for a few months so you can get to know it. Once you are comfortable with your boat, make the crossing from ICW to Shamrock on a fairly windy day. After you get comfortable with that, try it on a really windy day. If that works out OK for you, then you can try either the rigs about 7 mi. due east straight out of Packery or South to the rigs you can see when the seas are 1-2 ft. The fishing is great and you can learn to handle your boat in the gulf while still in sight of land AND in most cell phone ranges. It took me almost a year to feel comfortable enough with my boat (22' Bluewave) to venture out very far. But once out, I have never looked back. Offshore fishing is the only way to go for me. I do have to say that you had better have all the safety stuff down. VHF, GPS, life preservers, ditch bag, extra gas, extra battery, a bunch of bottles water and munchies AND if you can afford it, a Sea Tow membership. Also upgrade your fishing equipment. You can catch a lot of things with bay gear but once out, you never know what will bite. That's the way I did it. Hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make a couple of trip across Baffin. on some 20-25 mph days. I used to go to the rigs in a 16ft flat bottom aluminum boat, with zero fears of course I would have big eyes going out and coming back through the Port A jetties. Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:00 pm    Post subject: offshore in a bayboat Reply with quote

I have been offshore in bigger boats 10-15 times but never in a bayboat. It has a 60 gal fuel capcity. Would just like to catch snapper, lings, kings, maybe a amberjack etc.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smallest i been offshore on is a mako 228 but its has a high freeboard and 127 gal gas tank, well it is a mid-short rangle offshore boat. In this boat we could take 50 miles out one way and back no problem
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just like IMS said.. cut accross baffin a few times in high winds.. you will know how well you boat handles swells, waves and chops..

but going out of port a jetties is a real bite for even experience boaters on bad days.. we had a 18' sportcraft deep v with a 115 seadrive.. that thing handled great in the big swells, but heavy boat and small engine.. but been 10-15 miles off shore no problem, even with storms but that was being experienced with the boat.. but coming back in some heavy seas was slow and white knuckled at times.

Mako's are great boats.. but just all depends on your boats configuration and your boating skills.. you can get some serious waves getting in and out of the jetties that can take its toll even on expereinced boaters.. be preprared, prepair for the worst and hope for the best.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Confessions of young ones...Truth be told, high school, 15' Fantom center console 85 HP Mercury 2 miles out (1979). Master Baiter from the Wharf, our guru, plus 3 guys fishing for king fish in the outboard motorboat tournament. We caught, we lived, and to our advantage, haven't (at the time) discovered whiskey!

Same advice now, as back then, listen to your elders (or fellow posters here). Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy an EPIRB and a VHF. Make sure you have everything else in place and have a good time. I go out 30 miles in my whaler whenever the seas are calm. If it turns to crappy weather just be prepared for a long drive home and take it slow. It is not that technical. Oh yeah.... My whaler is only 15ft! Also it is always brilliant to check the radar before going out.
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