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Livtoday2 · Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:26 pm Post subject: Rogue Wanna Be Johnny Law

I will call PINS to get definite answer from federal. Reads & Sounds like there is an A**hole Wannabee officer on the loose.
JMHO

Has anyone ever been harassed, charged or convicted for Public Intoxication for consuming alcohol at their campsite and NOT operating a vehicle on state or federal beaches?
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Bigrock · Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:32 pm Post subject:

What happened? Confused

No Fishin' foo! · Finger Mullet Joined: 07 Mar 2009 Posts: 17

Details?

Bud · Horse Mullet Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 183

There is a difference between PI and DUI.
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snakecan2 · Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:21 am Post subject:

if you are making a scene and acting up.. yeah they can get you..
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o_brother · Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:29 am Post subject:

Ron White " I don't want to be drunk in PUBLIC, I want to be drunk in a bar." Drink a couple beers and in a public place and that can/will lead you to a PI..

Mike
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jabroner · Finger Mullet Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 28

was it a PINS park ranger or someone identifying themselves as a tx peace officer?
details...

not to stir the pot, but if whoever identifies themselves as a tx peace officer and has the credentials, sorry, they ain't no "wannabee" officer.

triplthret · Finger Mullet Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 23

I dont know the whole story about what happened. Give us some details. Was this person a Park Ranger? Was there a complaint? I've been in Law Enforcement for 10yrs. now. Many people are under the assumption that a breathalizer must be administered or some Field Sobriety Test to charge a person with Publice Intox. and that is not true. I dont know if you were intoxicated, but most of the time if you're courteous and respectful you'll most likely end up with a verbal warning.

Texas Penal Code 49.02

A person commits an offense if the person appears in a PUBLIC PLACE while intoxicated to the degree that the person may endanger the person or another. A PUBLIC PLACE refers to an area or place that is open and accessible to all citizens.

SurfinSapo · Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:22 am Post subject:

I think he is referring to this thread at breakaway forum:

http://nickawaymedia.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2578

The guy was freaking out at my beach birthday party. It was a family gathering and he was gripping his pistola ready for a riot to break out.. He's a rookie I guess and is not used to the wild wild south...???? Razz

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o_brother · Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:52 am Post subject:

Thanks for the link Surfin, That sounds like what Livtoday may be talking about. Nice to know there maybe a "hothead" ranger..

Mike
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jabroner · Finger Mullet Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 28

well if i should ever come across him out on my beat, he should expect the same type of treatment. The ranger that is...

btw, there is nothing wrong with having your gun hand near your sidearm or even on the top of the holster... alot of VETERAN officers do it just because that's how they are comfortable standing. Now, if he was gripping it, that's a horse of a different color.... i consider myself a "rookie" still, but damn, there are CLUES to look for that would call for getting consent to search.

SurfinSapo · Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:14 am Post subject:

I work at the Navy base and ever since 911 they have tightend the security for obvious reasons. They search us sometime, but never treat us like dogs while doing it. There is something called " respect"... No telling what this guy has seen going down out on PINS..Some people can't take stress like others.. Just be careful out there and obey the law....Maybe after a few years he will chill out and get used to his job...
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topdog15 · Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:40 pm Post subject:

If a man has his hand around the grip of the pistol then there is def. a problem. A man simply resting his hand on the top of his holster should not be reason for concern.
Not sticking up for the ranger in question as he obviously did not act in an appropriate manner, but resting your hand/arm on your holster is not indicative of drawing your firearm.
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larry meinert · Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:18 pm Post subject:

As far as I understood, when camping on PINS, You "claim" your spot on the beach. This becomes YOUR spot. You are no longer in public. I could see a problem with specifics on how far your camp site extends, should you venture off to the dunes to take a wiz, especially on any given holiday with nice weather. Camp sites might be 3 deep - 1 row at the water line, 1 row at the tide line and 1 row by the dunes for a mile down south beach. One 4th of July, a car cought fire. There were 6 or 8 vehicles there in a heart beat. When it gets thick down there, every yahoo from every police, fire department and emergency response for miles around is down there in unmarked vehicles and for good reason. This is not there regular deal. Sometimes they do not know the rules, other times it is their bad interpretation of the rules. I going to go out on a limb here and say I noticed it started when the new supervisor arrived. Trouble usually starts at the top. And if you, Mr Supervisor, are reading, PINS is a place for folks to camp and fish. You need to school your people in discretion. How many times are you going to let your people arrest campers only to have their case thrown out of court at great expense to the camper?

As far as anyone having their hand on their gun, I will be asking, just what is making them nervous so that I can correct it. If that doesn't work, I will be dialing 911 for assistance. L