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CaptinAcademy Flour Bluffian in training
Joined: 01 Oct 2009 Posts: 496 Location: Flour Bluff
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:16 am Post subject: Baffin Bay Serpulid Restoration Project |
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https://www.harte.org/project/restoring-serpulid-reef-habitat-baffin-bay
While I'm all for restoration projects, I'm concerned this will be used to implement closure areas we likely will never get back? _________________ Steve-O
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My biggest worry is that my wife (when I'm dead) will sell my fishing gear for what I said I paid for it. ~Koos Brandt |
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BayFly Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 02 Sep 2014 Posts: 1728 Location: Austin/Flour Bluff
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for posting this link Steve. Make s me proud to be a member of CCA. Sounds like the effort could enhance the status of Baffin Bay for many generations to enjoy. |
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Southeast Of Disorder Horse Mullet
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:06 am Post subject: |
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Do you see it coming ???
They need projects to allow them to receive government subsidies and big grants to make payroll.
What color will the new buoys be to hold back boats from our fishing grounds be ?
Any one wants to take bets on this happening ?? |
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kweber Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 2396 Location: Hondo
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:27 am Post subject: |
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opening a can of worms?  _________________ the creepy uncle that scares the kids.... |
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Shalor Horse Mullet
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:09 am Post subject: |
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| I am glad they are going to enhance Baffin Bay. It looks like they are going to put some artificial substrate out to see how well it is colonized. The part I was confused about is I thought I understood the article to say they were going to see if the new substrate was colonized by serpulid worms. I thought those serpulid worms that formed rocks were prehistoric and all gone? Are they still present in Baffin Bay? |
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BayFly Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 02 Sep 2014 Posts: 1728 Location: Austin/Flour Bluff
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:58 am Post subject: |
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| Shalor wrote: | | I am glad they are going to enhance Baffin Bay. It looks like they are going to put some artificial substrate out to see how well it is colonized. The part I was confused about is I thought I understood the article to say they were going to see if the new substrate was colonized by serpulid worms. I thought those serpulid worms that formed rocks were prehistoric and all gone? Are they still present in Baffin Bay? |
Like you Shalor, I recall from previous information published about Baffin Bay the worms were reportedly no longer existent, at least in BB, but the statement references there being worms presently, but evidently very few. This is all the more reason I'm encouraged to learn of the effort and hopeful they are successful in enhancing Baffin Bay's failing ecology. I'm sure the effort could be a discomfort to those of us fishing BB, but the health of the resource is much more important then our having unlimited access to our "spot". |
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Central Scrutinizer Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 14 Jul 2009 Posts: 3582 Location: Flour Bluff
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:58 am Post subject: |
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Given how fast Serpulid worms individually grow, this is a LONG play!!!!  |
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Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 01 May 2008 Posts: 3973
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:42 am Post subject: |
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| Southeast Of Disorder wrote: | Do you see it coming ???
They need projects to allow them to receive government subsidies and big grants to make payroll.
What color will the new buoys be to hold back boats from our fishing grounds be ?
Any one wants to take bets on this happening ?? |
just curious, what are YOU doing to help restore degraded ecosystems?
and yeah, I"ll take your bet that CCA's goal isn't to limit fishing access....
becky _________________
| Central Scrutinizer wrote: | | Thanks for the Memories, Ranger Rick. |
| ziacatcher wrote: | | However I bet if you were fishing naked Ranger Rick would have a problem with that |
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Rxfire Member White Shrimper Boot Club
Joined: 16 Apr 2016 Posts: 622 Location: Flour Bluff
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like a graduate student study of the colonization of worms on various substrates. Dumping huge limestone blocks in various locations (or whatever substrate works best) may serve as habitat enhancement whether worms get on board or not. _________________ "In your guts you know he's nuts" |
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speckled.trout Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 30 Aug 2012 Posts: 1190
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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Whoa!!!! Looks like the bag limit on Serpulid worms is going to get cut back to three.
A good start to getting Baffin Bay back into shape is get rid of all the dams the ranchers built on the creeks for stock ponds. Let's see some more fresh water flowing into Baffin like back in the day.
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BayFly Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 02 Sep 2014 Posts: 1728 Location: Austin/Flour Bluff
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I understand your concern speckled.trout, but it seems once a lake is full the creek continues to flow, as it originally did? That is, as long as the lake is not used for irrigation purposes. I think the limited fresh water is more a result of the ARID climate we have in this area. |
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speckled.trout Full Grown Flour Bluffian
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Doesn't work like that. Seems after the first one fills up, the water in the creek runs to the next stock pond on the next ranch and then to the next. There isn't just one stock pond on a creek and the creek runs through more than one ranch. You are correct the limited fresh water is a arid climate so let Baffin get it's share.
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Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm Full Grown Flour Bluffian

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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:01 am Post subject: |
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| speckled.trout wrote: | Doesn't work like that. Seems after the first one fills up, the water in the creek runs to the next stock pond on the next ranch and then to the next. There isn't just one stock pond on a creek and the creek runs through more than one ranch. You are correct the limited fresh water is a arid climate so let Baffin get it's share.
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spot on comment....that's actually being studied and looked at by Dr. Wetz and a few other groups...there's a meeting next week..
becky _________________
| Central Scrutinizer wrote: | | Thanks for the Memories, Ranger Rick. |
| ziacatcher wrote: | | However I bet if you were fishing naked Ranger Rick would have a problem with that |
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HungerBuster Flour Bluffian in training
Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 371
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Texas water rights laws would have to be completely re-written to take water rights away from property owners. If it's on you land, creek, river, or whatever, and you own both shores, it's yours. NO ONE can take it from you. Have to deal directly with the land owners to play nice. And in a drought, they won't. And don't have to. Nothing the State can do about it. _________________ Fish ON! |
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kweber Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 2396 Location: Hondo
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:10 am Post subject: |
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ehh, not so much...
CC owns most of the Nueces watershed, even here where I am...
only older dams that were granfathered in are allowed
all sorts of permits required to pump rivers... if even granted _________________ the creepy uncle that scares the kids.... |
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