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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:35 pm    Post subject: Windmills Reply with quote

I'm fishing, but not for fish! I'm fishing for the reason the windmills North of Corpus Christi are never turning, especially on days they obviously should be. Just this evening I've read where Texans are being asked to conserve on our use of electricity, due the the extreme heat we are experiencing, all the while these giant windmills are sitting idle. Anyone have knowledge why?

The windmills I'm referencing are the ones I observe on the left or North, as I approach Corpus Christi on Hwy 37 from San Antonio. It may be more than one development, but they appear to be in one grouping.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't matter. ALL of the local wind energy produced locally, which there is an abundance of, isn't distributed in our local grid.

Don't believe me? Next time you are at HEB or the Wal-A-Marts, and are asked about 'your local electrical provider' by one of the Greenies, ask them if they can guarantee that the power making it to my local service line is from a wind mill, within 100 miles from here.

Sorry, a sore subject with me......
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you talking about the ones out along/around 359 headed towards Skidmore? That project is still ongoing, that actual wind farm is not online yet. If its the Gregory/Taft ones, those have always been going from what I have seen personally.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the only sore subject was when Boone Pickens was lobbying for Us to pay for high-tension transmission lines to get His windfarm power from Amarillo to Dallas. ...and pandering to environmentally conscious voters in TV ads.
The transmission lines he wanted us to buy, in statewide utility cost-sharing, cost more much more than his windfarm, and all the profits would be his.
Subsidize the wealthy.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TailStalker wrote:
Are you talking about the ones out along/around 359 headed towards Skidmore? That project is still ongoing, that actual wind farm is not online yet. If its the Gregory/Taft ones, those have always been going from what I have seen personally.



Should be ready here soon. All I know is they messed up a lot of farm fields we hunt. Only good thing is now the roads are great to get around the fields.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TailStalker wrote:
Are you talking about the ones out along/around 359 headed towards Skidmore? That project is still ongoing, that actual wind farm is not online yet. If its the Gregory/Taft ones, those have always been going from what I have seen personally.


I'm pretty sure those are the ones I've been wondering about. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read on the internet (so it must be true) that a windmill will never produce enough electricity to offset the cost of building and maintaining it. Does anyone know if that is correct or not?

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David
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

same article that ends with this?

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CO2 is not a pollutant. CO2 is a fundamental requirement for life and the added CO2 is actually greening the planet


The acid gas plume from China and Malaysia coal burning is altering the ocean - they have to add caustic in PNW oyster farms for the oysters to be able to make their shells. The Great Barrier Reef is dissolving, and about 25% has been lost to date. When in comes to far east imports, be a bad consumer.
It's not quite so bad in our country, because we turn the bulk of acid gasses into solids. The exhaust scrubbing plant that does this is twice the size of the plant making the power.
Also tell our politicians to kick far east butts to scrub their acid gasses - technology our industry would be happy to license to them.

The government subsidy makes wind farm electric production economical, otherwise, no electric utility is going to invest in them.
When you see 500 wind turbines operating, they're replacing the fuel, power output and emissions of a gigawatt size coal plant, two of which are needed to run all of San Antonio (or all 4 countries of West Africa).
CPS energy claims their windfarm production is over 200,000 homes.
CPS also has among the lowest electric rates in the country (my biggest electric bill is $150), but a big part is good long term planning combined with their share in STNP.
You personally pay less for wind electricity, because fossil-based power includes a fuel surcharge.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess we will learn the truth long after we are gone. If there were not economics involved possibly we could learn the truth today, but so much for that! Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bulldog, how many square feet do you have air conditioned for that $150 ? And who is CPS ?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Donnie, that's City Public Service, SA - I have a couple of flown daughters' rooms closed off, which really helps (SE and SW corners of the house, and the garage is on the N end of the house),
so I'm heating/cooling about 2100 sq ft, but temperate weather into June, my electric was $85.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulldog1935 wrote:
Donnie, that's City Public Service, SA - I have a couple of flown daughters' rooms closed off, which really helps (SE and SW corners of the house),
so I'm heating/cooling about 2100 sq ft, but temperate weather into June, my electric was $85.


I am guessing that your house is very well insulated as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

even with all rooms open, athletic girls and dogs running in and out, height of heat and depth of winter, never had an electric bill over $200.
But I have friends in Corpus, and know there's a big difference in base rate here and there.
I also lived in Austin when they protested themselves out of STNP, and CPS quietly bought their shares.

I also adjust my thermostat around the sun load. Always go to bed and get up cool, at noon let it warm up a degree, again about 4p, and take those two cool degrees back after sunset. The logic is so the a/c compressor gets regular rests.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulldog1935 wrote:
even with all rooms open, athletic girls and dogs running in and out, height of heat and depth of winter, never had an electric bill over $200.
But I have friends in Corpus, and know there's a big difference in base rate here and there.
I also lived in Austin when they protested themselves out of STNP, and CPS quietly bought their shares.


What is your base rate per kw hour ?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have the number handy, but there's a 10% difference in average rates between SA and CC, and Corpus electricity is considered cheap in national ratings.
Found it online - CPS base rate/kw-h is 6.9 cents and adjusted rate (fuel charges, peak charges) is 11 cents.
Month-to-month, even day to day, hour to hour, it's going to vary based on performance of their production elements, overall demand, and your personal use.

I edited to post this above, but it fits better here:
I adjust my a/c thermostat around the sun load. Always go to bed and get up cool, at noon let it warm up a degree, again about 4p, and take those two cool degrees back after sunset, an hour apart. The logic is so the a/c compressor gets regular rests. Since adjusting the thermostat that way, I haven't failed a compressor start-up capacitor (knock on wood). But I'm also warming up a degree when the rest of the city is on peak load.
When I think about it, open my garage first thing in the morning to let it cool off - safe to do that where I live - all I'm risking is a feral cat intrusion.
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