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Vern · Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:47 am Post subject: Hook Change in Outdoor Annual

Did anyone notice the new regulation for shark fishing hooks?
When fishing for sharks in state waters, anglers are required to use non-offset, non-stainless steel circle hooks, except when fishing with artificial lures.

I believe that there was a topic earlier this year about the possibility of this happening.
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bulldog1935 · Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:42 am Post subject:

The new change makes the state regulation match the federal regulation.
https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=86d3e4e21c5c4a3cd94b7f259d8700e1&node=50:12.0.1.1.2&rgn=div5#se50.12.622_130

Central Scrutinizer · Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:46 am Post subject:

Yeah, what he said ^^^^^...

(Side Note: Who uses artificial baits when targeting sharks?).

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bulldog1935 · Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:40 am Post subject:

non-stainless hooks are only required for bait - if you catch a shark on your bloody red lure with stainless hooks, it's legal in both state and federal water

Allen · Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:12 pm Post subject:

Who's gonna tell the sharks what baits they can chomp on? Who gets the ticket?

Vern · Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:13 pm Post subject:

While I use mostly circle hooks there are some rigs I use other hooks. Soooo what if I have one of those rigs our for reds and I catch a shark then what here we go again. I suppose just plain old surf fishing would be hard to prove you were after shark but then some of those rigs well there would be no question.
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bulldog1935 · Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:50 am Post subject:

you guys may be reading too much into this, and definitely extrapolating - it's simple politics, making the state reg match up with the Federal reg.

hickroots07 · Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:26 am Post subject:

bulldog1935 · Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:14 am Post subject:

but the solution to the problem is not esoteric in the least - don't buy stainless circle hooks for bait fishing - instead, buy black nickel non-offset.
They're easier to find than stainless (probably because of the pre-existing CFR). On the parallel TKF thread, most of those complaining were already buying black nickel hooks.

https://www.google.com/search?biw=1600&bih=789&tbm=shop&ei=5DRxXZnxBYKiswWOkpewCg&q=black+nickel+non-offset+circle+hook&oq=black+nickel+non-offset+circle+hook&gs_l=psy-ab-sh.3...130383.132921.0.133159.11.11.0.0.0.0.190.905.10j1.11.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab-sh..0.0.0....0.UsBNDISzcHs

There's no conspiracy, no one is trying to trick you into being fined.
TPWD is simply playing ball with the Fed.

I'll admit to having a preference for Kahle bend hooks in stainless, and every big red I've caught on bait was on that hook. Still have most of 100 Mustad 4/0 bought 30 years ago. But it's not a difficult problem.

Transplanted · Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:07 pm Post subject:

I never saw a circle hook before I moved down here. They work pretty good. But I dont know if there needs to be a law about it. Isnt there something more important to do?

bulldog1935 · Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:50 am Post subject:

of course there are more important things to do - see windmills, state ban on phosphorus fertilizers, and desalination for public water supply.
The original CFR was very likely minor appeasing those against shark fishing as a concept - the Feds throwing a bone (rather than banning shark fishing - this is how politics works).
I still see the glass as half-full.