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[rvillegachapa]

Greetings Everyone, I am new to Surf Fishing and I was wondering how far one would have to cast to go beyond the third sand bar in PINS? Thanks, Roel

[Mike_D]

Skilled long casters may only make it over the first bar while standing on the sand, so the third is obviously not feasible to cast to. Anything much beyond the first and definitely the 2nd would be larger baits usually deployed by kayaks.

[HungerBuster]

Wade gut: usually just sand at low to very low tides; otherwise it's the water to the first BAR (also sometimes close to exposed at lower tides)

First BAR: first sand bar, again, usually covered (last (or first) set of breakers)), though at some points on the beach (PINS) can be exposed at very low tides.

First GUT: the water AFTER the first bar.

Second BAR: next sand bar, usually waist high to higher, depending on tide

Second GUT: you're getting wet trying to wade through it under most circumstances.

Third Bar: the water after the second gut.

Gulf of Mexico: Basically anything beyond the third bar, but in clear water, and depending on where you are, SOMETIMES, you can make out (but never touch without a snorkel) another "bar."

Good long casters (I'd put that number at about a couple dozen folks that I've seen--right rod, right weight and right bait and hook technique a must) can get to the second GUT (which is fairly wide in terms of how "long" it is from the first bar)) from the beach. But that's a heck of a cast.

Me, from the beach I'm generally get 50 yds out even with the wind. Usually into the front side of the second BAR or on top of it, and if at low tide and willing to get my ankles wet =), sometimes into the second GUT. If the stars align and I get the pendulum cast right, I MIGHT get into the second at times (but that's probably me just saying that). It always looks like you're casting farther than you think-- just take a few measured casts on a football field and you'll find out just how hard it can be to really sling a cast.

Of course, particularly down PINS a ways, all of the above, particularly depths, change drastically. And if there are good cuts in the bars, you'll have everyone with a "professional" argument about which guts and bars are where.
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[bd0202]

I've got a 10' Tica Dolphin surf rod with a Penn Pursuit II 6500 on it (taken from an 8' rod). It's the largest rod I've fished even though I know I could go bigger. BUT with a 3-4oz weight in calm (5-10kt E-SSE) winds, I can hit the second gut without getting my feet wet. Typically I wade at least to the first gut though, which puts me at about the third sandbar. If I go all the way to the second sandbar, I can hit the dropping (starting) edge of the third gut (a.k.a. "open water" in most cases). Wind plays a huge factor though. Anything above 20kts sustained I lose at least 100 yds casting distance, plus I need a heavier weight to stay in place. Don't know if that helps - my rigs are meager compared to some of these guys.
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[rvillegachapa]

Great Info, Thanks for everyone's input. Thanks, Roel

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