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Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm
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 Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:45 am Post subject: Re: SwellInfo Driving Me Crazy |
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| The Trash Heap wrote: | | The Trash Heap wrote: | | The Trash Heap wrote: | Swellinfo is predicting wave heights dropping to 1-2 feet on Monday, 10/23, and down to 0-1 foot on Tuesday, 10/24. Don't know yet how long the window would last. I hope to give it a try while it does.
How are driving conditions in Big Shell since Sharkathon? |
Swellinfo blew its previous forecast, considering it's now predicting chest-high waves through Wednesday. It's now saying the surf will be flat briefly on Thursday morning, but I've got a conflict then. Doesn't look like I'll have another chance until mid-November. |
SwellInfo just did it again. Now it's predicting window wave heights on Sunday and Monday, 10/29-30. Can I trust those predictions? |
no....I don't see a pomp window in the next 10 days...
becky
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Donnie
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:39 am Post subject: |
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What constitutes excellent Pompano catching conditions - the Pomp window ?
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The Trash Heap
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:15 pm Post subject: Definition of Pomp Window |
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| Donnie wrote: | | What constitutes excellent Pompano catching conditions - the Pomp window ? |
Wave heights offshore PINS should be 2 feet or less for at least 24 hours, and the longer the better. Inshore, the surf should be as flat as possible for one or more of the preceding days, and the water clarity as high as possible when you hit the beach.
Best catching during the window involves reading the bars and guts, and targeting points and pinches to lessen the wading distance and casting distance so as to bracket the second bar as easily as possible. On an outgoing tide, the best bites are usually beyond the bar, while on an incoming tide the bites tend to improve on near side of it (sometimes when a hot bite turns off, the fish may simply have crossed the bar in search of prey). If possible, soak baits at first on both sides at once to see which does best.
Watch the most recent shore drift lines to see if there is a concentration of mole crab shells and/or freshly stranded small dying or dead sand dollars. On a falling tide, you may also see beds of coquina clams burrowing back down after the last wave recedes.
Lastly, go when there's a rare west wind blowing. It's worth the nuisance flies and skeeters which come down to the beach when the west wind blows, but the old adage is true: "Fishing is best when the wind's in the west." Partly this is because long casts with the wind behind you are made easier, and partly because the tides are lower.
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Central Scrutinizer
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: SwellInfo Driving Me Crazy |
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| Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm wrote: | | no....I don't see a pomp window in the next 10 days...becky |
The 'windows' for the next 10 days looks like what you would expect to see at Double-Wide Meth Lab, with Roberta' working the parking lot, in the back of an El Camino up on blocks!!! 
I personally thought that the linoleum 'going up the walls' was a nice touch! |
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Donnie
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:27 pm Post subject: Re: Definition of Pomp Window |
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| The Trash Heap wrote: | | Donnie wrote: | | What constitutes excellent Pompano catching conditions - the Pomp window ? |
Wave heights offshore PINS should be 2 feet or less for at least 24 hours, and the longer the better. Inshore, the surf should be as flat as possible for one or more of the preceding days, and the water clarity as high as possible when you hit the beach.
Best catching during the window involves reading the bars and guts, and targeting points and pinches to lessen the wading distance and casting distance so as to bracket the second bar as easily as possible. On an outgoing tide, the best bites are usually beyond the bar, while on an incoming tide the bites tend to improve on near side of it (sometimes when a hot bite turns off, the fish may simply have crossed the bar in search of prey). If possible, soak baits at first on both sides at once to see which does best.
Watch the most recent shore drift lines to see if there is a concentration of mole crab shells and/or freshly stranded small dying or dead sand dollars. On a falling tide, you may also see beds of coquina clams burrowing back down after the last wave recedes.
Lastly, go when there's a rare west wind blowing. It's worth the nuisance flies and skeeters which come down to the beach when the west wind blows, but the old adage is true: "Fishing is best when the wind's in the west." Partly this is because long casts with the wind behind you are made easier, and partly because the tides are lower. |
West winds are rare - and they usually have a name, like Harvey, or Carla, or Celia. Kidding aside, thanks bunch, I have never targeted Pompano but you guys have me pumped up or pomped up, for both the catching and the eating. And the time for Pompano, is it the fall, or anytime that the above conditions kick in ?
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The Trash Heap
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:07 am Post subject: Re: Definition of Pomp Window |
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| Donnie wrote: | | The Trash Heap wrote: | | Donnie wrote: | | What constitutes excellent Pompano catching conditions - the Pomp window ? |
Wave heights offshore PINS should be 2 feet or less for at least 24 hours, and the longer the better. Inshore, the surf should be as flat as possible for one or more of the preceding days, and the water clarity as high as possible when you hit the beach.
Best catching during the window involves reading the bars and guts, and targeting points and pinches to lessen the wading distance and casting distance so as to bracket the second bar as easily as possible. On an outgoing tide, the best bites are usually beyond the bar, while on an incoming tide the bites tend to improve on near side of it (sometimes when a hot bite turns off, the fish may simply have crossed the bar in search of prey). If possible, soak baits at first on both sides at once to see which does best.
Watch the most recent shore drift lines to see if there is a concentration of mole crab shells and/or freshly stranded small dying or dead sand dollars. On a falling tide, you may also see beds of coquina clams burrowing back down after the last wave recedes.
Lastly, go when there's a rare west wind blowing. It's worth the nuisance flies and skeeters which come down to the beach when the west wind blows, but the old adage is true: "Fishing is best when the wind's in the west." Partly this is because long casts with the wind behind you are made easier, and partly because the tides are lower. |
West winds are rare - and they usually have a name, like Harvey, or Carla, or Celia. Kidding aside, thanks bunch, I have never targeted Pompano but you guys have me pumped up or pomped up, for both the catching and the eating. And the time for Pompano, is it the fall, or anytime that the above conditions kick in ? |
Any time those conditions occur, but they tend to happen more between frontal passages in the fall, and it seems like the average size is larger then, as well. Usually, the best time is between Thanksgiving and Christmas.
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Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm
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if we manage to get to a third day of a light west wind, and I'll be calling in sick...
becky
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Donnie
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| Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm wrote: | if we manage to get to a third day of a light west wind, and I'll be calling in sick...
becky |
Feel a bit of a fever myself.
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mickeyd
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If you only go out when the aforementioned "pomp window" conditions exist you will be spending a lot of time watching daytime soaps and wishing for your old college sweetheart to call you up.
Pomps, like all fish certainly might be easier to catch when the surf is calm, blue/green, low winds, et. al. but sadly in these parts of our world those conditions are not as common as we would like. I have caught lots of pomps in less than ideal conditions in water that looked like the Rio Grande at flood stage, with the surf ripping furiously enough to host the Fidel Castro surfing tournament, and no one, not even Nick out on the beach. Do not hesitate to give it a go whenever your schedule permits as those "windows" might be as rare as the erection of our newly scheduled border wall.
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Donnie
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| mickeyd wrote: | If you only go out when the aforementioned "pomp window" conditions exist you will be spending a lot of time watching daytime soaps and wishing for your old college sweetheart to call you up.
Pomps, like all fish certainly might be easier to catch when the surf is calm, blue/green, low winds, et. al. but sadly in these parts of our world those conditions are not as common as we would like. I have caught lots of pomps in less than ideal conditions in water that looked like the Rio Grande at flood stage, with the surf ripping furiously enough to host the Fidel Castro surfing tournament, and no one, not even Nick out on the beach. Do not hesitate to give it a go whenever your schedule permits as those "windows" might be as rare as the erection of our newly scheduled border wall. |
I would take your advice - any time. My workout / rehab schedule is for me to make three trips a week - and those are usually in the evening - 3 - 4 hours - home by 10. This evening was awesome, caught some whiting - the water was great , the beach was wide, and the sunset was beautiful. Have a large bag of whiting in the fridge so I let these guys go. Even caught a big doe checking me out - as I turned the subie around to head north, i see this big doe standing - hard to compare it to anything or figure out what a female deer was doing on top of that dune, looking out over the water. She cant drink it, there is nothing she can eat at the beach, my guess is she is like me, she just likes being there.
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The Trash Heap
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| Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:58 am Post subject: |
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| mickeyd wrote: | If you only go out when the aforementioned "pomp window" conditions exist you will be spending a lot of time watching daytime soaps and wishing for your old college sweetheart to call you up.
Pomps, like all fish certainly might be easier to catch when the surf is calm, blue/green, low winds, et. al. but sadly in these parts of our world those conditions are not as common as we would like. I have caught lots of pomps in less than ideal conditions in water that looked like the Rio Grande at flood stage, with the surf ripping furiously enough to host the Fidel Castro surfing tournament, and no one, not even Nick out on the beach. Do not hesitate to give it a go whenever your schedule permits as those "windows" might be as rare as the erection of our newly scheduled border wall. |
Donnie's original question was what constituted excellent conditions - the pomp window. As for other conditions, I'm like Matthew Quigley, who "Said I didn't have much use for 'em, never said I didn't know how to use 'em."
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Donnie
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| Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:17 am Post subject: |
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| The Trash Heap wrote: | | mickeyd wrote: | If you only go out when the aforementioned "pomp window" conditions exist you will be spending a lot of time watching daytime soaps and wishing for your old college sweetheart to call you up.
Pomps, like all fish certainly might be easier to catch when the surf is calm, blue/green, low winds, et. al. but sadly in these parts of our world those conditions are not as common as we would like. I have caught lots of pomps in less than ideal conditions in water that looked like the Rio Grande at flood stage, with the surf ripping furiously enough to host the Fidel Castro surfing tournament, and no one, not even Nick out on the beach. Do not hesitate to give it a go whenever your schedule permits as those "windows" might be as rare as the erection of our newly scheduled border wall. |
Donnie's original question was what constituted excellent conditions - the pomp window. As for other conditions, I'm like Matthew Quigley, who "Said I didn't have much use for 'em, never said I didn't know how to use 'em." |
Excellent quote. I am going out - regardless of conditions (excepting high wind - and nutsoid high tides) - fishing I like, being on the national seashore, I love.
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The Trash Heap
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| Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:43 am Post subject: Maybe Monday, 10/30? |
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Swellinfo is staying with its prediction of a flat surf by Monday morning. Anyone driving down PINS on Sunday, please post a report on water clarity and driving conditions north of PINS MP 35.
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Central Scrutinizer
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| Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:12 am Post subject: |
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| Donnie wrote: | | fishing I like, being on the national seashore, I love. |
Question for you (just out of curiosity on my part). If you are coming all the way from Calallen, why go all the way onto PINS for an evening fishing trip of a couple of hours? The 8 mile stretch from Bob Hall to the north sticks is virtually identical to the first 10 miles or so of PINS (beach profile, dunes, guts, etc.). Past the Bowl is nearly vacant on a weekday, and it's FREE!!! Just seems like a long way to go.
But you are right - PINS is great, although I never even think of stopping until I get to 18+, or when the sound of the shells under my tires makes me smile.  |
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