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ziacatcher · Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:38 pm Post subject: A change in plans

Originally had planned on going out tomorrow and the tournament I was scheduled the referee in Bishop was moved to Thursday because of the hurricane. About 1 went out today and wound up with a limit of trout using my Tequila Gold sand eels. After that I decided to play around with Some of Trout Supports baits that he sent me. They work real well. I found a small gut south of Pita and experimented. Made 15 casts with bone color TS lure, a Tequila Gold sand eel and a chicken on the Chain TS lure. I wish he had a color similar to Tequila Gold. Would have been interesting to see what happened compared to the two side-by-side The bone and the Tequila Gold caught about the same amount of fish seven each. Whereas the chicken on a chain only caught two trout. However on the way back I drifted the flats at my two minute honey hole and the chicken on a chain, which was rigged weedless weightless, hooked into a 26-inch redfish. When I got home got a message that tomorrow's tournament is cancelled also because of the hurricane and teams coming from out of town don't want to risk putting their players In Harm's Way. Totally understand

Blast-n-Cast · Full Grown Flour Bluffian Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 1142

Nice! Ive been eye balling the Trout Support lures as well and checked out his videos online for rigging them. I think he posted that he would be having some new colors coming out. I have seen a pink one in some of his photos. I have read lots of good reviews of his lures. I need to order some myself.

ziacatcher · Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:43 pm Post subject:

I got these fish not even using recommended hook. If I ever rig it properly who knows how many fish I'd catch off it. We'll need to try that next time out.

DMAC · Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:07 am Post subject: tsl lure

TroutSupport · Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:03 am Post subject:

Good Stuff Zia...

and good points DMac. yes, with weedless baits of any sort, you have to reel down, take out slack, and give them a full power stroke. Many times with jig heads we are used to a little shot quick hook set and we have a super loose drag because of the age old idea that the drag should be super loose for trout with that weak skin. But with these hooks they hook through bone and cartilage.. so for the hook set I'll either thumb down for the hookset or tighten my drag for the hook set. These hooks by design will hook in corner of mouth or usually though something big like a lower lip.. on rare rare occasion it might still get a little thin top of mouth, but honestly I can't remember a time when that's happened since i started shaping the hook. Reel down, set the hook hard with full power stroke, then back off drag etc. I've gotten good reports of guys not having any problems with hook ratio after they switch to that method.. and that's with almost all weedless rigged baits.

Zia.. what are you liking about the bait and what are your dislikes just be honest. Are there things that you like about them compared to other lures.

TroutSupport · Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:06 am Post subject:

and for all, here's the latest you tube.. most of you can already walk the dog with subsurface twitch baits and this reviews that and covers things like what might be different from fishin a weedless rigged bait.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptwZeqF6Qvw

ziacatcher · Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:34 pm Post subject:

One thing I really like about these baits is that they are tough. The won't get torn apart by a couple bites from perch like other soft plastics. I caught several nice size trout and a Red on one without having to change them out. That's also what I like about the Norton sand eels. Personally I need to learn how to rig them differently. I have been very successful catching fish by bouncing my lures off the bottom using a regular jig head. I am not convinced that walking the dog what catches many fish.. Might have to give it a try this if that will work. I need to find the right Hooks and learn how to rig them up as suggested

DMAC · Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:00 am Post subject:

TroutSupport · Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:06 am Post subject:

Thanks guys and all good stuff.

DMAC · Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:41 am Post subject: eels

Speaking of sand eels, one of those reds we caught Monday had a golf ball size wad of little fresh eels in his belly. Don't think I've ever seen them like that before. D

shallowsport · Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:56 pm Post subject:

Fish are stocking up. Appreciate the lure review, Zia.
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Salt On the Brain · Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:14 pm Post subject:

I really like them and have had great success with them and will never be without them in my box.
I wish they were tougher. If I use a z-shank worm hook, they tear up after a fish or two, but they are more weedless and my hookup ratio is better than with screwlock worm hooks which allow the lures to catch 10 or twenty fish instead of 2.
I'd like to have a larger size option. Maybe a smaller option, also.
Why is the belly color lighter on chicken on a chain and the back lighter on bone diamond?
The bigger the hook, the better they work. That said, the hook pocket is a hair too short for the best hooks. Just 1/4" longer would be great.
Even with these few criticisms, this is a lure I completely believe in and is everything I was looking for in a soft plastic.
Thanks for the effort you put into this great lure.
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ziacatcher · Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:04 am Post subject:

We're staying at my son's condo on the island 2 have some AC. Walked over to packery and I threw the bone color and right against the Rocks I was able to pick up an 18 inch Snook.