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Oil Field Trash II
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| Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm wrote: | LOL! tyler, you're no fun....(admin edit on my last post)
I had some additional "comments" there that many of you would have found hilarious....there was at least 5 new signature quotes in there....pm me and I'll send them to you when I get a chance....
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grasscutter
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Location: aransas pass
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| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| SeanHHH wrote: | | grasscutter wrote: | | My mistake....make that two white boats coming up the river. |
Grasscutter, are you quoting Powderfinger in you posts? Haven't heard that in a long time. |
Aye...originally there was one white boat, but then there came a second and finally a third. But only two remain. The first was perhaps a harbinger. |
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Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Oil Field Trash II wrote: | | Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm wrote: | LOL! tyler, you're no fun....(admin edit on my last post)
I had some additional "comments" there that many of you would have found hilarious....there was at least 5 new signature quotes in there....pm me and I'll send them to you when I get a chance....
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you wouldn't dare..... |
oh, I WOULD dare.....and I did....LOL
pm sent
becky
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| Central Scrutinizer wrote: | | Thanks for the Memories, Ranger Rick. |
| ziacatcher wrote: | | However I bet if you were fishing naked Ranger Rick would have a problem with that |
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Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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| mesquitecountry wrote: | | People always change the subject when they have no ability to debate the logic handed to them. That's my experience, especially those that throw so called "knowledge bombs" on the internet behind a keyboard without provocation or conclusive research and their own factoid is "someone said so" |
um, if someone would hand me some debatable logic, I would stay on topic no problem....quoting Wikipedia articles on the Chesapeake is as close to this argument as the spike-shooting comment a couple pages back....
you all want a REALLY GOOD source? check this out, THIS is THE source for Texas bays ecology.....all marine students at school have to at least use this as a reference book....
for the rest of you that are interested in an easy to read source about basic bay ecology, and a decent precursor to food webs and productivity, this is actually a really good read....glad I was able to locate it online for ya'll (I have several copies at my desk here)....full text is available from two sources....
http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/007246719
the others arguing with me: go read this and come back and lets hear what you have to say about "photic zones" and productivity....and THEN, at THAT POINT, maybe we could actually get back on topic and discuss the effects of bay trawling, and what effects the current TPWD proposal on lengthening shrimping hours here and there will ACTUALLY have on the environment...
and she sticks the landing....boom!
becky
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| Central Scrutinizer wrote: | | Thanks for the Memories, Ranger Rick. |
| ziacatcher wrote: | | However I bet if you were fishing naked Ranger Rick would have a problem with that |
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Central Scrutinizer
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm wrote: | | um, if someone would hand me some debatable logic, |
Challenge Accepted!
Let a and b be equal non-zero quantities
a = b
Multiply by a
a^2 = ab
Subtract b^2
a^2 - b^2 = ab - b^2
Factor both sides; the left factors as a difference of squares, the right is factored through its greatest common divisor)
(a - b)(a + b) = b(a - b)
Divide out (a - b)
a + b = b
Observing that a = b
b + b = b
Combine like terms on the left
2b = b
Divide by the non-zero b
2 = 1
!!!!!! BOOM ... Let the Debate Begin.
(Not really, but it's still funny in the current context).  |
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lifeaquatic
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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How do you think a shrimper would look at the extra hours? Is working the heat of the day very productive? Would they go out in two trips, morning and late afternoon and use essentially the same time on the water? When is the most productive time? And where can I get some white boots?
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Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| lifeaquatic wrote: | | How do you think a shrimper would look at the extra hours? Is working the heat of the day very productive? Would they go out in two trips, morning and late afternoon and use essentially the same time on the water? When is the most productive time? And where can I get some white boots? |
excellent questions.....the shrimpers (and most normal people) are looking at the extension in two ways; shrimping is restricted to mornings to early afternoon....that cuts out shrimping in the evening.....your "working in the heat of the day" comment is spot-on.....as they could choose to go out later once the winds come up and it's not blazing hot...
would they go out twice? once in the morning and once in the evening? maybe, maybe not.....but maybe likely on some days where shrimping is good....they still have the same bag limits though, so no increase there....
shrimp are like fish; sometimes they move in the morning, sometimes at night, sometimes in the middle of the day....extending the hours simply gives a shrimper more flexibility in hours....nothing more....
you can get Flour Bluff Reboks (aka Aransas Pass nikes, rockport ropers, etc) at wallyworld and academy.....do yourselves a favor, and when you get a pair, grab a set of those Dr. Scholl's gel inserts and jam down in there....that turns a $20 pair of tough plastic boots into something you can actually wear for a few hours and feel comfortable in.....makes a big difference, believe me!
becky
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| Central Scrutinizer wrote: | | Thanks for the Memories, Ranger Rick. |
| ziacatcher wrote: | | However I bet if you were fishing naked Ranger Rick would have a problem with that |
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grasscutter
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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self correcting...Let the shrimpers shrimp.
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lifeaquatic
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm wrote: | | extending the hours simply gives a shrimper more flexibility in hours....nothing more.... |
Bingo
Just because there is an 80% increase in hours allowed (as stated by the original post) does not necessarily mean there is an 80% increase in use. I'd think TPWD has certainly considered this.
When talking about shrimp, don't trust someone who doesn't own some white boots. 
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Predapex
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| lifeaquatic wrote: | | Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm wrote: | | extending the hours simply gives a shrimper more flexibility in hours....nothing more.... |
Bingo
Just because there is an 80% increase in hours allowed (as stated by the original post) does not necessarily mean there is an 80% increase in use. I'd think TPWD has certainly considered this.
When talking about shrimp, don't trust someone who doesn't own some white boots. |
Unless you're Vietnamese. |
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Jason Slocum
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Just because there is an 80% increase in hours allowed (as stated by the original post) does not necessarily mean there is an 80% increase in use. I'd think TPWD has certainly considered this.
When talking about shrimp, don't trust someone who doesn't own some white boots. |
Thanks for using common sense. With all the extra shrimp the shrimpers are going to supposedly catch they'll be shrimping in gold shrimp boots!
With a supposedly "80% increase in hours allowed" = to 80% more diesel burned = 80% increase in shrimper cost = 80-100% increase in the price of shrimp... = (in my best dr. evil voice) ONE MILLION DOLLARS for a pint of bait shrimp, or 59.99/lb for 71/90's.
I think i did the math correctly, can someone check it for me?
Pint of bait shrimp = Shrimp boat payment + shrimp boat fuel + shrimp boat wet slip + cost of nets + 3 cases of busch + shrimp boots + license + insurance + cost of living + retirement savings + shrimper health insurance + sea tow + payment to shrimp pimp + ect. + ect^2...
I'm currently in my 5th pair of Rockport ropers. After 4 pairs of the white version we've upgraded to green boots with comfort soles available through Memphis net and twine..
https://www.memphisnet.net/product/2613/boots-Knee |
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ironmanstan
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| Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 6:08 am Post subject: |
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| lifeaquatic wrote: | | How do you think a shrimper would look at the extra hours? Is working the heat of the day very productive? Would they go out in two trips, morning and late afternoon and use essentially the same time on the water? When is the most productive time? And where can I get some white boots? |
You go and shrimp when they are running. Shrimpers talk to each other.
Shrimp travel a lot at night. That's mostly when you see the top netters. Gulf shrimpers normally shrimp at night and sleep during the day.
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TheRealLagunatic
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| Sunnybrookfarm no self respecting shrimper or old school fisherman would be caught dead in those piece of crap white things walmart sells try tractor supply on line the brand is Boss . I love mine 18" tall and they last. |
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Blast-n-Cast
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| I guess I dont fall into the category of "most normal people" My perspective may be somewhat unique. I am someone who as a kid spent quite a bit of time on a shrimp boat in our local bays culling and seeing first hand the amount of bycatch discarded on a daily basis who later in life went on to earn a B.S. in Biology with emphasis on Marine. I oppose the proposed changes. I don't believe the degree is a prerequisite to understanding that the proposed changes will not only increase pressure on shrimp populations resulting in increased bycatch but also giveway to several other potentially damaging factors as a direct result i.e. increased turbidity, pollution, destruction of seagrasses, etc. It seems to me that some of the board "Know it alls" are missing a key point while arguing this matter. It is not just about extending the hours, not as I read it anyway. From what I am reading not only are the hours being extended, but the daily bag limit is going up by 200lbs (25% increase). I don't follow the logic that "extending the hours simply gives a shrimper more flexibility in hours....nothing more..." The way I see it, extending the hours gives them more time to try to catch the additional 200lbs of shrimp. Do you think they are not going to use every hour possible to reach that limit? I know that the boats I was on would. The way I read it, the proposed changes in legal hours also apply to recreational shrimpers so this increase in pressure is not limited to just the commercial shrimpers since any recreational shrimper with a $37 tag can take advantage of the new proposal. |
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JoeT
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| ^^^^ good landing |
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