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Franklin
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

with PINS closed, I spent some time on the Kleberg section of beach recently. It reminded me why I quit going there and typically only go to PINS. Between the a-holes out to drink as much as the can and drive like, well, a-holes and the (i'm sure) very friendly gentlemen trolling the beach...

I figure if the rangers arrest as many POS drunks as they do on PINS, it's worse on Kleberg's un-patrolled beach. I saw a good many people drinking heavily while I fished sections of Kleberg in the last couple weeks. And I had an equally good number of people show their donut/tire spinning skills unreasonably close to me and others.

You have a problem on Kleberg's beach who do you call? Kingsville is pretty far away.

A great many of you have taken the time to get on here in recent weeks (especially) and bash the parks service and the rangers. I just wanted to take the time to thank them. They spend their holidays snagging drunks before they kill more people and they are their to help when needed. I hope the land is transferred over to PINS. I gladly give them my measely $20 a year. Best damn $20 you can spend.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive heard that CCPD is contracted to patrol that area??? I saw a CCPD tahoe in the area yesterday
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Franklin wrote:
with PINS closed, I spent some time on the Kleberg section of beach recently. It reminded me why I quit going there and typically only go to PINS. Between the a-holes out to drink as much as the can and drive like, well, a-holes and the (i'm sure) very friendly gentlemen trolling the beach...

I figure if the rangers arrest as many POS drunks as they do on PINS, it's worse on Kleberg's un-patrolled beach. I saw a good many people drinking heavily while I fished sections of Kleberg in the last couple weeks. And I had an equally good number of people show their donut/tire spinning skills unreasonably close to me and others.

You have a problem on Kleberg's beach who do you call? Kingsville is pretty far away.

A great many of you have taken the time to get on here in recent weeks (especially) and bash the parks service and the rangers. I just wanted to take the time to thank them. They spend their holidays snagging drunks before they kill more people and they are their to help when needed. I hope the land is transferred over to PINS. I gladly give them my measely $20 a year. Best damn $20 you can spend.

Fish On.


thank goodness someone on this thread has some sense! This area has been lawless for years causing many problems for the current property owners. God bless the Nature Conservancy!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What property owners are you referring to?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Changed my mind. We need to fight it.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

STAR2004 wrote:
Franklin wrote:
with PINS closed, I spent some time on the Kleberg section of beach recently. It reminded me why I quit going there and typically only go to PINS. Between the a-holes out to drink as much as the can and drive like, well, a-holes and the (i'm sure) very friendly gentlemen trolling the beach...

I figure if the rangers arrest as many POS drunks as they do on PINS, it's worse on Kleberg's un-patrolled beach. I saw a good many people drinking heavily while I fished sections of Kleberg in the last couple weeks. And I had an equally good number of people show their donut/tire spinning skills unreasonably close to me and others.

You have a problem on Kleberg's beach who do you call? Kingsville is pretty far away.

A great many of you have taken the time to get on here in recent weeks (especially) and bash the parks service and the rangers. I just wanted to take the time to thank them. They spend their holidays snagging drunks before they kill more people and they are their to help when needed. I hope the land is transferred over to PINS. I gladly give them my measely $20 a year. Best damn $20 you can spend.

Fish On.


thank goodness someone on this thread has some sense! This area has been lawless for years causing many problems for the current property owners. God bless the Nature Conservancy!


More like lack thereof.

Bashing the park rangers and telling a story of their tactics and behaviors are two different things.

Everything you've mentioned is speculative opinion and very exaggerated (in my opinion). "Because I say so" doesn't hold much weight with grownups. But, I am familiar with the power of the keyboard Very Happy

My experience on that beach over the last ~25 years or so is VERY VERY VERY VERY different from yall two geniuses.

The liberal mind is something really confounding... A few people misbehave on a TEXAS beach, therefore it should be handed over to the federal government to manage?

Not without a fight!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FIDO wrote:
STAR2004 wrote:
Franklin wrote:
with PINS closed, I spent some time on the Kleberg section of beach recently. It reminded me why I quit going there and typically only go to PINS. Between the a-holes out to drink as much as the can and drive like, well, a-holes and the (i'm sure) very friendly gentlemen trolling the beach...

I figure if the rangers arrest as many POS drunks as they do on PINS, it's worse on Kleberg's un-patrolled beach. I saw a good many people drinking heavily while I fished sections of Kleberg in the last couple weeks. And I had an equally good number of people show their donut/tire spinning skills unreasonably close to me and others.

You have a problem on Kleberg's beach who do you call? Kingsville is pretty far away.

A great many of you have taken the time to get on here in recent weeks (especially) and bash the parks service and the rangers. I just wanted to take the time to thank them. They spend their holidays snagging drunks before they kill more people and they are their to help when needed. I hope the land is transferred over to PINS. I gladly give them my measely $20 a year. Best damn $20 you can spend.

Fish On.


thank goodness someone on this thread has some sense! This area has been lawless for years causing many problems for the current property owners. God bless the Nature Conservancy!


More like lack thereof.

Bashing the park rangers and telling a story of their tactics and behaviors are two different things.

Everything you've mentioned is speculative opinion and very exaggerated (in my opinion). "Because I say so" doesn't hold much weight with grownups. But, I am familiar with the power of the keyboard Very Happy

My experience on that beach over the last ~25 years or so is VERY VERY VERY VERY different from yall two geniuses.

The liberal mind is something really confounding... A few people misbehave on a TEXAS beach, therefore it should be handed over to the federal government to manage?

Not without a fight!


+10000

Just more twinks and dinks looking for their government controlled ideal world!!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:35 pm    Post subject: Heck no Reply with quote

Bad idea. Near Austin, the U.S. gov is on a land grab called the Balcones National Canyon lands. All designed to protect a bird. Once they buy the land, it is placed off-limits to you. There are large tracts deemed off-limits by the no entry signs posted everywhere and the area is growing. It now buts up against the area I live in. If PINS is ever placed off-limits do to the turtles, this will be included if it isn't up front. It could be placed that way initially and used as an excuse to place more land that way. This should not happen and I am sending my emails about it.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Heck no Reply with quote

Mudflap wrote:
Bad idea. Near Austin, the U.S. gov is on a land grab called the Balcones National Canyon lands. All designed to protect a bird. Once they buy the land, it is placed off-limits to you. There are large tracts deemed off-limits by the no entry signs posted everywhere and the area is growing. It now buts up against the area I live in. If PINS is ever placed off-limits do to the turtles, this will be included if it isn't up front. It could be placed that way initially and used as an excuse to place more land that way. This should not happen and I am sending my emails about it.


That's what concerns me much like what happened at Cape Hatteras with the feds and birds.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FIDO wrote:
STAR2004 wrote:
Franklin wrote:
with PINS closed, I spent some time on the Kleberg section of beach recently. It reminded me why I quit going there and typically only go to PINS. Between the a-holes out to drink as much as the can and drive like, well, a-holes and the (i'm sure) very friendly gentlemen trolling the beach...

I figure if the rangers arrest as many POS drunks as they do on PINS, it's worse on Kleberg's un-patrolled beach. I saw a good many people drinking heavily while I fished sections of Kleberg in the last couple weeks. And I had an equally good number of people show their donut/tire spinning skills unreasonably close to me and others.

You have a problem on Kleberg's beach who do you call? Kingsville is pretty far away.

A great many of you have taken the time to get on here in recent weeks (especially) and bash the parks service and the rangers. I just wanted to take the time to thank them. They spend their holidays snagging drunks before they kill more people and they are their to help when needed. I hope the land is transferred over to PINS. I gladly give them my measely $20 a year. Best damn $20 you can spend.

Fish On.


thank goodness someone on this thread has some sense! This area has been lawless for years causing many problems for the current property owners. God bless the Nature Conservancy!


More like lack thereof.

Bashing the park rangers and telling a story of their tactics and behaviors are two different things.

Everything you've mentioned is speculative opinion and very exaggerated (in my opinion). "Because I say so" doesn't hold much weight with grownups. But, I am familiar with the power of the keyboard Very Happy

My experience on that beach over the last ~25 years or so is VERY VERY VERY VERY different from yall two geniuses.

The liberal mind is something really confounding... A few people misbehave on a TEXAS beach, therefore it should be handed over to the federal government to manage?

Not without a fight!


FIDO FOR GOVERNOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Franklin wrote:
with PINS closed, I spent some time on the Kleberg section of beach recently. It reminded me why I quit going there and typically only go to PINS. Between the a-holes out to drink as much as the can and drive like, well, a-holes and the (i'm sure) very friendly gentlemen trolling the beach...

I figure if the rangers arrest as many POS drunks as they do on PINS, it's worse on Kleberg's un-patrolled beach. I saw a good many people drinking heavily while I fished sections of Kleberg in the last couple weeks. And I had an equally good number of people show their donut/tire spinning skills unreasonably close to me and others.

You have a problem on Kleberg's beach who do you call? Kingsville is pretty far away.

A great many of you have taken the time to get on here in recent weeks (especially) and bash the parks service and the rangers. I just wanted to take the time to thank them. They spend their holidays snagging drunks before they kill more people and they are their to help when needed. I hope the land is transferred over to PINS. I gladly give them my measely $20 a year. Best damn $20 you can spend.

Fish On.


Go ahead and spend your $20 on a piece of property you may never get to use once it is handed over to the Feds. I have been SBH all the way to the North Sticks at PINS and have yet to have a problem. I have more problems at Packery channel with all the a-holes drinking a doing donuts in front of the condos. So in your mindset, the Feds should confiscate the beach in front of the condos all the way to Packery Channel to keep the Riff Raff from terrorizing the public and tearing up the beach. Yeah, what a good Idea. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have never seen beer cans and donut tracks on PINS, you haven't spent enough times on PINS to be offering an opinion on the subject. This idea that the federales somehow prevent that sort of thing is not realistic.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I reported this here on this forum on Nov 5th 2011 when I first heard of it. No one seemed to get to excited about it then. I think the conservancy all ready owns the property. The feds were supposed to take over back then. I'm sure it's all about money. I never heard anything about them closing that part of the beach. L
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

larry meinert wrote:
I reported this here on this forum on Nov 5th 2011 when I first heard of it. No one seemed to get to excited about it then. I think the conservancy all ready owns the property. The feds were supposed to take over back then. I'm sure it's all about money. I never heard anything about them closing that part of the beach. L


They have not yet sold the property and the deal is on hold pending further investigation.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since when is law enforcement in Texas so inefficient that they can't control access and Texas law on a beach?? What the heck is happening to this state anyway?? Maybe too many Libs from out of state have come to Texas. It should be a cold day in hell when we transfer anything to the Fed Gov't, just on principle if for no other reason.
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