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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:47 pm    Post subject: Bioluminesecent waves Reply with quote

I was out on Quintana beach at the mouth of the river last night. We left around midnight and witnessed an amazing bioluminesecent display in the crashing waves. I did a little research today and I'm finding a lot of that can be linked to a red tide.

Can the glowing waves happen independantly from RT or is it always an indicator?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good question. Do know that there are sea creatures that when touched will illuminate. Have had my wading path highlighted at times. Never heard of the correlation with red tide.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first time I ever observed bioilluminescense was in the summer of 1973 in Corpus Christi Bay. I don't recall there being any red tide or fish kills at that time. It's an amazing sight especially being able to see the fish swimming away from your boat at night.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always thought it was phosphorus that made the waves glow. Used to go night surfing back in the day when it was glowing.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shallowsport wrote:
Good question. Do know that there are sea creatures that when touched will illuminate. Have had my wading path highlighted at times. Never heard of the correlation with red tide.


X2. Seen them alot wading at night, at oso years ago.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not always related to red tide. A lot of different things in the bay luminesce on contact, from algae to ctenophores.

I've seen fantastic bioluminescence in our bays over the last few years. In the padre canals on calm nights in the summer time is particularly great. The BEST light show I've seen by far is by the pipes that drain the sewage treatment plant at the end of white cap (go figure!). Paddled by there one calm night when there was no moon and the colors were like a scene from fantasia.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ltorna1 wrote:
Not always related to red tide. A lot of different things in the bay luminesce on contact, from algae to ctenophores.

I've seen fantastic bioluminescence in our bays over the last few years. In the padre canals on calm nights in the summer time is particularly great. The BEST light show I've seen by far is by the pipes that drain the sewage treatment plant at the end of white cap (go figure!). Paddled by there one calm night when there was no moon and the colors were like a scene from fantasia.


What he says! We have several that can cause that. I waded behind bird island one time at night and the harder you kicked the water the brighter the flash. We scared a big eagle ray in that and almost soiled ourselves from the bright splash and the noise.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best example I have ever seen personally is the bioluminescent bay in Fajardo Puerto Rico.
It was... AMAZING!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Texican wrote:
The best example I have ever seen personally is the bioluminescent bay in Fajardo Puerto Rico.
It was... AMAZING!


I never did Fajardo (regretfully). I hear its a trip. But I did swim in one of the other bioluminescent bays in Puerto Rico, the one at La Parguera on the SW coast. I was actually more impressed with the Padre Island PooPoo-Plant. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See it on PINS all the time, your footprints in the wet sand glow.

My niece and nephew ran themselves ragged one night making footprints. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Video lecture on the topic --

http://www.ted.com/talks/edith_widder_glowing_life_in_an_underwater_world.html?quote=688
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It also helps to give some extra light when paddling out baits down PINS in the middle of the night!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brine wrote:
Video lecture on the topic --

http://www.ted.com/talks/edith_widder_glowing_life_in_an_underwater_world.html?quote=688


Excellent video and presentation Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No! It's not related to red tide. The bioluminescence is caused by a species of bacteria that produce light when there are enough of them (a quorum) present in the water. Its a system of response to a stimulus that is directly related to population density. I'm sure that that's going to clear it up for everyone! Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Howdy!

I always attributed the bioluminescence in the surf to dinoflagellates.

Had a frightening experience fishing the Galveston surf one night, by myself, down at San Luis Pass. Was walking a bait out to cast from the sandbar and was in chest deep water in the middle of the gut. Suddenly, about 8 feet away or so, bait started scattering and I could see a glowing cylinder below the surface. It was probably about as big as I am tall. I screamed...or yelled rather..., slapped the water with my surf rod, and turned to run. Felt like I was trying to run through a giant bowl of oatmeal and I bet it was a funny sight. I'm too chicken to walk my baits out after dark now...for the most part.
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