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Tyler Site Admin

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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:19 pm Post subject: 1998 Jeep Wrangler 4 cylinder question |
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Looking at a "toy" third car for Kelle and me. A 1998 Jeep Wrangler with a lift, 4 cylinder, auto, 33X12.5.15 tires same as my suburban.
I test drove it the other day and it didn't seem so underpowered as everyone says they are.
I don't plan to do any hill climbing, towing anything or any long highway trips except to maybe South Padre in it.
I had heard that the 4 cylinders were great in the high banks since they are light and can creep over the soft stuff without getting buried.
Any thoughts or experience with a similar jeep on PINS? I don't know what the gearing is on it. I guess I need to run it on the highway up the harbor bridge and back. _________________ Like Corpusfishing.com on Facebook!
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Chef Lefty Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Posts: 4659 Location: The First Sandbar (a.k.a. Flour Bluff)
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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Let your "18 year old" instinct take over and buy that puppy! Sounds like an opportunity you need to jump on!  _________________
| Central Scrutinizer wrote: | | I call shenanigans on that one. |
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BishopRyan Pony Mullet

Joined: 11 Jul 2011 Posts: 78 Location: Corpus Christi
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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I don't believe there is enough weight difference to make a difference. But I don't think you're really sacrificing a whole lot going with the 4 cylinder. I've had and been around Jeeps for a long time. There's certainly some advantages with the v6 out on the highway and around town but that doesn't typically translate over for slow crawling and general beach debauchery. You're not full time bashing here. A weekend 3rd vehicle right.
I would check all wiring. As wiring is the first to go in Jeeps in coastal towns. Corrosion and so forth. Crawl underneath and look over the suspension real closely. Bushings and so forth. What kind of lift is this? Body or suspension. Did they install a SYE? A good article about the importance of that upgrade when putting lifts on Jeeps. http://www.jeepfan.com/tech/what-is-a-slip-yoke-eliminator-and-why-do-you-need-it/. Is the engine light on? Has the engine light been disconnected?
You may not even need to re-gear it.
If its in good shape and its the right price I say go for it. |
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critter getter Member White Shrimper Boot Club

Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 747 Location: corpus christi
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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| i have had both 4 n 6 theres no way i would ever go with a 4 banger again they with 33 on it and a good head wind you'll do good to get out of 4th gear. keep looking and buy a 6. I may a trip to houston in mine and i have never been so happy to get out of a car. Just my 2 |
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BamaRed54 Member White Shrimper Boot Club

Joined: 15 Feb 2012 Posts: 912 Location: The Bluff
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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As long as it is kind of an "in town/beach" jeep you can't go wrong with that 4cyl. Just keep it serviced and wash it after beach trips and it will run forever! _________________
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Stinger-A Flour Bluffian in training
Joined: 17 Mar 2011 Posts: 300 Location: Alice, Tx
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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I currently own a 98 jeep tj 4cyl and can tell you all the good and bad about it. Highway driving is horrible, top speed is 75, downhill with the wind at your back. But off road at the PINS, it's the best, light enough to stay on top of the soft stuff and enough torque to get you out of any jam. Out of any 4x4 I've owed, I feel the safest off roading in my jeep. I've also pulled other trucks out with it. If you are purchasing because you want to travel, then I would say no. If you are purchasing because it's a cheap, reliable, fun, kickarse off roading machine, then I say go for it!!!
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REEL BEAST Flour Bluffian in training

Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 321 Location: Aransas Pass TX
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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Three decisions when buying a jeep, motor, transmission, rear end. Six cylinder without question if you ever go to the beach or oversize the rubber. I prefer manual transmission but auto can work. I like a 3.73 rear end but the 3.41 is minimal and of course a 4.11 is just a beast.
I have had all combinations and was never satisfied with the four cylinders. The rear end is really everything. Find out what gear ratio it is. The four cylinder just cannot push you down the beach and down the freeway both adequately, it is geared for one or the other. _________________ Capt. Ross L. McElwee
R&R Coastal Adventures, Inc.
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shorty Member White Shrimper Boot Club
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:02 am Post subject: |
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remember that silver one i had ? it was a 4 banger,auto.was a great beach ,fishing buggy,only problem i had was i had to play the Fred Flintstone if i wanted to get on the freeway at any type of speed,but then again,they aint made for speed.i will suggest this ,check the frame !
i looked for over a year for that one.couldnt find on in Corpus that had a frame left under it,they was all rotted,some guys even under coated over rusted frames just to hide it.if you do find one with a good under carrage,under coat the crap out of it.i pulled the stink carpet out to and under coated the inside,drilled a few drain holes.miss that jeep,only reason i sold it was the insurance was killing me on 2 boys under 21 listed as drivers.it was a real Sex Machine !! |
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workinbird Member White Shrimper Boot Club
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:28 am Post subject: |
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| My son has the exact same Jeep! He loves it as long as he is not highway driving! <*/)))>< |
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Tyler Site Admin

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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:45 am Post subject: |
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| shorty wrote: | remember that silver one i had ? it was a 4 banger,auto.was a great beach ,fishing buggy,only problem i had was i had to play the Fred Flintstone if i wanted to get on the freeway at any type of speed,but then again,they aint made for speed.i will suggest this ,check the frame !
i looked for over a year for that one.couldnt find on in Corpus that had a frame left under it,they was all rotted,some guys even under coated over rusted frames just to hide it.if you do find one with a good under carrage,under coat the crap out of it.i pulled the stink carpet out to and under coated the inside,drilled a few drain holes.miss that jeep,only reason i sold it was the insurance was killing me on 2 boys under 21 listed as drivers.it was a real Sex Machine !! |
Joe did yours have over-sized tires? _________________ Like Corpusfishing.com on Facebook! |
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flounderjig Horse Mullet
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:13 am Post subject: |
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| Got a 2006 and love it. Goes over 80mph on four cylinders. Used at the beach and hunting lease I previously had up near Marble Falls. I will keep it till it dies and then get another engine for it. Quite happy, if I run across an older model I will go there too. |
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ward438 Horse Mullet

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J.ust E.mpty E.very P.ocket. That being said I'm on my second Jeep. I feel like I rule the sand. With the stock 4.10 gears, don't go any bigger than 33's. _________________ Not much motion in the ocean...but hey, I'm the captain! |
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Tyler Site Admin

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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:37 am Post subject: |
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| REEL BEAST wrote: | Three decisions when buying a jeep, motor, transmission, rear end. Six cylinder without question if you ever go to the beach or oversize the rubber. I prefer manual transmission but auto can work. I like a 3.73 rear end but the 3.41 is minimal and of course a 4.11 is just a beast.
I have had all combinations and was never satisfied with the four cylinders. The rear end is really everything. Find out what gear ratio it is. The four cylinder just cannot push you down the beach and down the freeway both adequately, it is geared for one or the other. |
Holy Hell Capt. How'd do you fit into it? I bet the 6 cylinder would lug with Gulliver in there!  _________________ Like Corpusfishing.com on Facebook! |
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ward438 Horse Mullet

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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:49 am Post subject: |
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| REEL BEAST wrote: | Three decisions when buying a jeep, motor, transmission, rear end. Six cylinder without question if you ever go to the beach or oversize the rubber. I prefer manual transmission but auto can work. I like a 3.73 rear end but the 3.41 is minimal and of course a 4.11 is just a beast.
I have had all combinations and was never satisfied with the four cylinders. The rear end is really everything. Find out what gear ratio it is. The four cylinder just cannot push you down the beach and down the freeway both adequately, it is geared for one or the other. |
All wranglers with the 4 cylinder comes standard with 4.10's. Now check the rear end itself. If it has a rubber plug it'll be a Dana 35, if it has a metal fill plug, that would be a dana 44. The 44 is the one you want. The 35 is a c-clip axle made of broken dreams and shame. It's very weak. 33's are as high as you could go reliably. Prevent axle hop at all cost or you will snap and axle shaft like it's your job. But, the 4 banger is capable. You should have a 3.97 or so 1st gear, with a 2.71 reduction in low with 4.10 gears. Bringing the grand total of 10.78:1 final ratio in 1st low. That brings you to 1476 ft. lbs of torque in low. So more than ample power for the sand. _________________ Not much motion in the ocean...but hey, I'm the captain! |
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shorty Member White Shrimper Boot Club
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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| it had 31 and a halfs,not really over sized,but big enough.kept it pretty much stock.4 cylinder is just fine for what your doing.just dont get in a hurry. |
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