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Stump · Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:34 am Post subject: Do Fish Feel Pain?

http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2006/09/15/1739175.htm?site=science/greatmomentsinscience

I thought this was interesting and would compliment the latest debate on ethics. I liked the part about giving a fish morphine, which seemed to help them deal with the stress of applied pain. So, should we start giving fish an Advil before the release, just a thought? Very Happy

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Coach · Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:58 am Post subject:

The guys I fish with definately do not give any fish pain
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ironmanstan · Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:06 am Post subject:

I think that when anything quivers when it is stabed , shot, stomped on, run over, or scared, feels a certain amount of pain. What kind of pain and to what extent I can not answer that. Fish are not stupid so therefore they have a brain. Look at how much we spend to go after a fish that has what we think is a small brain. IMS
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Bayslammer · Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:43 am Post subject:

Can't give a definative answer but my guess would be yes. I also give these pea brained cold blooded creatures far too much credit for how much thinking they actually do. As far as how I treat them....well I choose to lean on the "fish hugger", forum warden side most would say.

I spend countless days on the water, and have a respect for the authority that we have over the fish. With all of the time, money and effort spent learning to find catch fish on a consistent basis, we as anglers still have the final decision after the catch. That being said, I could really care less if someone who lands a legal fish decides to release that fish or keep it and make it thier next terd. The word ethical is used often, and I use it myself. Ethical treatment of animals in general has become a very heated topic among sportsmen. I feel like certain animal rights groups have taken it way too far, but I also feel like there are those on the other end of the spectrum. How can we expect people who have never learned the concept (ethical behavior) to carry that mentality over to the bay. Throwing fish 15' in the air and taking pictures is what I call painful.....just maybe not so much for the fish
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Mad Dog · Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:49 am Post subject:

Of course fish have a sense of feel. Do they feel pain the way we do? I couldn't say. But how else do you explain the instinct to dislodge a hook by jumping and shaking the head? Is it pain or just a sensation the fish knows to resist?

MD Wink

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Kingz · Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:07 pm Post subject:

The older I get the less I keep, they may find it a lil inconvenient , but I enjoy cuttin 'em loose, prob not in the air anymore...G

Oil Field Trash II · Full Grown Flour Bluffian Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 1560

someone threw fish 15 feet in the air?

I don't know if fish feel pain... I've never heard a croaker scream when I stick a hook in their back.

Tyler · Site Admin Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 12865

I am sure they do in some form but I imagine them eating my lure and my lure being a small baitfish. Would the small baitfish feel pain? See? No guilt Smile

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4theReels · Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:01 pm Post subject:

Well....I know they have a sense of humor....they always laugh at me when they take my bait.....which in sense gives me pain.....
Go figure.....

landlocked beachbum · Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:15 pm Post subject:

Short answer: Who cares????

Humans are the only species on the planet that gives a rat's rear end what other creature do and don't feel, or think for that matter! The other creatures just spend their time EATING EACH OTHER!!!! Of course herbivores aren't eating each other, but then the question becomes; do plants feel pain, and again I ask, who cares?

Most fish are carnivorous and many are even cannibalistic........................ Embarassed

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Ol Sanch · Flour Bluffian in training Joined: 05 Jun 2006 Posts: 320

I would suppose that all animals feel pain. It's a purposeful biological reaction to a stimulant. I doubt that's reaction is exclusive to humans or animals with higher degrees of intelligence.

For me it doesn't matter if they do or not, I try and have mercy on them when I'm catching, killing, and eating them. That sounds sounds kinda funny but it isn't meant to be. I believe we're at the top of the food chain (at least as long as we have our weapons) and as such we catch, kill, and eat prey. In doing that, I try to be merciful. As for others I think their only obligation is to obey the law. I'm have no interest in pushing my approach to nature on others. That can be a slippery slope.
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MakoJJ · Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:42 pm Post subject: