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FoldCatOne · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:16 pm Post subject:

Good luck at the meetings this week guys. We are depending on you to be the voice of opposition to a LIFA in the Boat Hole to Pita Island area. Of course with all of the channels in this area, a LIFA would be pretty hard to impose. Even under the current SSA up in the Port A area, the Texas Land Office can grant oil companies the right to maintain their channels, drill new wells, and dump the spoils in the grass areas - at least this was what the TP&W guys said in San Antonio the other night. Somehow, drilling wells and dumping spoils from channel maintenance seems to be at odds with what the SSA is trying to accomplish of sea grass preservation. BTW, the TP&W guys were very receptive to additional marking of channels to prevent TP&W wardens from "Guessing" where the channels that would allow BIG MOTOR USAGE were.

From my point of view, I would think if they institute the Sea Grass no damage zone that having a GPS running recording every track you make in the area would be money in the bank. Nothing like a GPS track to take to court with you, and since the fine is $500, the cost of at least a handheld GPS is cheap insurance. If the TP&W is coming for you just start hitting man overboard markers on the GPS to prove were you have been and where you currently are. I would let the Ranger know you had the exact position in question marked electronically.

topdog15 · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:50 am Post subject:

fishinglady · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:27 am Post subject:

Anybody know what time the meeting is today or the time for the meeting on Dec. 13? I dug around on TPWD site, but couldn't find the time of the meetings.

topdog15 · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:51 am Post subject:

7:00 pm I believe
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Tyler · Site Admin Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 12865

Yes, 7pm

http://www.caller.com/news/2011/dec/01/proposed-jfk-seagrass-protection-plan-meeting-sche/
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HsBnAtty · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:07 pm Post subject:

This is to remind Corpus fishermen of the first of two meetings in our area. A meeting is scheduled for 7:00 tonight at the Natural Resources Center, Room 1003, Texas A&M University, Corpus Christi, 6300 Ocean Drive, Corpus Christi, TX 78412

CaptWildBill · Finger Mullet Joined: 18 Jul 2011 Posts: 29

You ask WHY? WHY HERE?

Because its apart of the United Nations AGENDA 21 ( Google it, or youtube it ) that the United States Government signed on to in 1991. They have successfully killed almost all commercial fishing industries in the US and now they are coming for sportfishermen. They do it incrementally and slowly under the guise of " SAVING THE EARTH ", but the true agenda is working towards a one world government ( United Nations, you see ). Under this " new world order " , one of its goals is to RESTRICT peoples involvement and movements from LAND AND SEA. Its all documented online! Its there for everyone to read or watch!

TPW are in on it, every Governement agency or arm is, you even have local AGENDA 21 arm in the city of corpus christi. So ask yourself, how did a United Nations agenda end up in your LOCAL government council?????????????????????????????????????????

It goes like this, Agenda 21 sits back and says " we want to stop people from being on PINS, how do we do it, we'll use scientific study and we'll say we need to protect turtles! "

Agenda 21 says, " we want to restrict activity in places in high boating activities areas, how do we do it, we'll use scientific study and we'll say we need to protect seagrass!"

Agenda 21 says, " we want to kill the commercial fishing industry, how do we do it, we'll use scientific study and we'll start a propaganda campaign and use the sportfishing community in our favor, tell them we want to protect the fish and stop overfishing so their children will be able to have fish to catch for generations to come! "

But here is the kicker, it is all a lie, a lie that most of you fight for, a lie that I fought for since I was a kid, the truth is, if these people succeed, If AGENDA 21 succeeds, none of our children will be fishing in the future. And on top of that, we lost 23 manufacturing facilities EVERY DAY IN 2010 and you are faced with an impending dollar collapse that is coming, you wont be able to afford to fish anyways.

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/35-facts-about-the-gutting-of-americas-industrial-might-that-should-make-you-very-angry

AGENDA 21 is staring you in the face right now, and I hope it wakes some of you up. It is the REAL FIGHT, the true battle we face.

anyways, i'm not ranting, just trying to inform, thanks for reading.

CWB

ltorna1 · Full Grown Flour Bluffian Joined: 17 Apr 2009 Posts: 3240

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So can anyone update us on how the scoping meeting went? I had other engagements, couldn't make it. Thanks in advance.

fishinglady · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:50 am Post subject:

There was standing room only at last night's meeting. I think many of the people there were from CorpusFishing. Vast majority were opposed. Only person who spoke in favor was a kayak guide from Redfish Bay area ....Slowride. One man said he used to fish Redfish Bay but stopped after the no prop scar was introduced.

Audience did a great job of pointing out the TPWD lack of current data [or any data] to back up their proposals. Also pointed out that sea grass is currently booming in the area...so much so that it is often hard to find sand pockets to fish.

TPWD man said most scars in proposed area were along west side of ICW; I pointed out that could be because many/most of the buoy markers on that side of the ICW are missing....have been "taken out" by barges. I suggested that better marking of ICW edges and other channels might help reduce scaring.

topdog15 · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:51 am Post subject:

Yeah, what ltorna said.

Luke,
The meeting was as productive as could be expected. I would say there were over 50 people at the meeting and only one spoke in favor of the SSA. I'm not saying he was the only one for it, just that he was the only proponent who spoke up. Not sure what difference it will make as TPWD is obviously in favor of this proposal so I'm afraid it will make little difference what the public thinks. That said, it is still important that everyone make a showing at the remaining meetings (at least the one on the island next Tues). On a side note, our County Commissioner, Joe McComb, did speak against the proposal and suggested TPWD gather more current data on the proposed SSA and seagrass within the area before going further with this issue.
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ccbobber · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:52 am Post subject: meeting

those i saw at the meeting, porky, topdog, jellyfish, fishinglady, rabbit and myself all listened to a presentation from the state on why the luguna must be protected from prop scars - but using 10 year old info from when red fish bay was in trouble - no current info or actual facts- only saying that the luguna is in trouble.
at the san antonio meeting, 4 people showed up. we had probably about 60 people with apparently only a guide from red fish bay in favor of it.
in 12 years of fineing prop scar people (a total of 10-15) in red fish bay the state believes they have taught us ALL how to be better boatpeople.
Many luguna guides & long time fishermen stated that the leguna is as healthy as it has ever been.
i believe BIG BROTHER is once again deciding how we can live and enjoy mother earth.
bobber
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Jellyfish · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:37 am Post subject:

A large majority of locals at last nights meeting were not happy with TPWD answers as to why the LM was chosen for the SSA. It really appears there is a hidden agenda here. There is a good possibility that the commission has already decided that the SSA will happen no matter what the public input is. However, the department should be put to task to provide the public with a documented and plausible explanation on how this decision was made. It may be time to form a group, ad hoc as it may be, to travel to Austin in March to speak on this proposal.
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