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landlocked beachbum Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 5811 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 3:50 pm Post subject: jigging rod |
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Hey y'all,
I got my rod kit yesterday and have the handle, seat and fore grip installed. Still waiting for a response from Mudhole on the proper guide spacing for this particular blank and fishing style. Can't WAIT to give it a go next month on the offshore trip!!!!
Any of you rod builders down there who might be able to help me out, please feel free!!!  _________________ Dave
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DUKE460 Finger Mullet
Joined: 20 Nov 2009 Posts: 16
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 5:17 am Post subject: JIGGING ROD |
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| WHICH ROD ARE YOU BUILDING AND WHAT TYPE OF REEL |
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landlocked beachbum Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 5811 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 7:22 am Post subject: |
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http://www.mudhole.com/Shop-Our-Catalog/Complete-Rod-Kits/Custom-Builder-Vertical-Jigging-Rod-Kits
Bottom one on the spinning list. Reel is a Quantum Boca PT60 spooled w/65 lb Spider Wire Stealth. A little on the heavy side for this blank, but yes................................. I do know how to use a drag and I know how to fight a fish! I'm using 65 instead of 50 lb braid just for the strength and abrasion buffer. I bought this reel because it's supposed to have one of the smoothest, strongest, most heat resistant drags on the market.
The kit has 5 guides plus tip top and the reel is centered (foot) 64" from the rod tip. I FINALLY found one chart showing the proper spacing for said dimensions but am still quite open to further thoughts and suggestions, thanks! _________________ Dave
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ccbobber Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 21 May 2006 Posts: 2359 Location: The Island
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:28 am Post subject: rod |
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get er done. _________________ ccbobber |
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rabbit Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 3835 Location: FLOUR BLUFF
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 10:33 am Post subject: |
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You may not have enough handle behind the reel. Go to shimano butter fly jigs on you tube and look at those rods they are using and the method of jigging. _________________ Fishing and Kayaking its a rough life but somebody has to do it. |
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landlocked beachbum Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 5811 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Rabbit, but the kit is designed for stand up jigging. I would surely hope that the folks at Mudhole could figure out the proper handle lengths!
It feels good under my arm and using a butterfly jigging motion. I'd rather have my left arm (reel handle) closer in than further away, it keeps my chest more open and should be less fatiguing.
Here's a pic with the guides just taped into place. Believe me when I tell you that this outfit is stronger than the picture tells!!!!
 _________________ Dave
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DUKE460 Finger Mullet
Joined: 20 Nov 2009 Posts: 16
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 4:00 pm Post subject: JIGGING ROD |
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| I HAVE A 20 TO 40 WITHE SAME REEL SAME LINE WITH 80# WINDON LEADER SENT PM DONT USE GUIDE CHART |
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rabbit Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 3835 Location: FLOUR BLUFF
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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Thats a nice looking setup. Here is what i will be using a 6ft sturdy stick with a new diawa 30 and 60lb braid.
 _________________ Fishing and Kayaking its a rough life but somebody has to do it. |
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DUKE460 Finger Mullet
Joined: 20 Nov 2009 Posts: 16
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 8:23 pm Post subject: JIGGING ROD |
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[img] [/img] [img] [/img] [img] [/img] 20 T0 40 BLANK GUIDES WRAPPED TWICE WITH D NYLON 70PT QUANTUM 65# POWER PRO 80# WINDON LEADER SPLITGRIP MADE BY LAST CAST RODS |
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landlocked beachbum Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 5811 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:37 pm Post subject: Re: JIGGING ROD |
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| DUKE460 wrote: | | I HAVE A 20 TO 40 WITHE SAME REEL SAME LINE WITH 80# WINDON LEADER SENT PM DONT USE GUIDE CHART |
Yes, I got your PM, but why don't you just tell me what you think right here? Why not use the chart that I spoke of?  _________________ Dave
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ArtificialB8 Flour Bluffian in training

Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 470 Location: Spring Branch, TX
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 6:24 am Post subject: |
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There are numerous different tables and charts that can be used for guide spacing. I actually created a spreadsheet based on the method in Dale Clemens book on Custom Rod Building....I can send that to you if you like (PM me your e-mail address).
As an alternative, check out a couple of articles available on the RodBuilding.org website ( http://www.rodbuilding.org/library/library.html ).
1. New Guide Concept - Spinning Rods
2. New Guide Concept Primer
3. Static Guide Placement |
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DUKE460 Finger Mullet
Joined: 20 Nov 2009 Posts: 16
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:04 am Post subject: JIGGING ROD |
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PUT ROD UP AGAINST THE WALL PUT YOUR FOOT TO HOLD BUTT TO THE WALL TAKE TIP AND BEND IT 90 DEGREES WHERE THE ROD BENDS AWAY FROM THE WALL THIS IS WHERE YOU NEED THE BACK GUIDE THE 40 THAT COME WITH YOU KIT MAY BE ON SMALL SIDE FOR YOUR REEL SO AJUST IT ALITTLE TO GET AS STRIGHT LINE ANGLE AS YOU CAN
THE REST OF THE TIPS PUT ON WHERE CHART SAYS WITH TAPE OR ZIP TIES THEN PUT ON REEL RUN LINE THUR GUIDES PUT PRESSURE ON LINE TO BEND ROD LOOK AT THE LINE MOVE GUIDES TO GET THE BEST ANGLE ON LINE WITH OUT VERY SHARP ANGLES THE BETTER THE LINE MAKE A CURVE THE BETTER THE ROD WILL BE |
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landlocked beachbum Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 5811 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:07 am Post subject: |
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Thanks. I had already seen that copy but was looking for more info. I guess I just need to stop looking and get after it!
Logic tells me that even using this system, all rod blanks don't bend the same way, and the guides should be placed so as to follow the bending characteristics of the blank. I have also seen the static system and that seems to be more logical (if time consuming) way to do this.
As in most things, there seems to be no free lunch!!!
I appreciate the assistance from all!  _________________ Dave
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits". Albert Einstein |
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landlocked beachbum Full Grown Flour Bluffian
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:10 am Post subject: |
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Duke, I made my last post before yours was here. Thanks for the advice, I'll give that a try!  _________________ Dave
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landlocked beachbum Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 5811 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:20 am Post subject: |
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Here's a good read on the subject of static guide placement, and one writer usies common sense and logic to blow the "two pieces of line" technique out of the water........................................................... it didn't make sense to me either!!!!! The line running through the guides and THEN from the tip is what loads the blank, NOT just a weight hanging from the tip but not stress on the other guides!!!!
http://www.360tuna.com/forum/f74/static-guide-placement-14785/ _________________ Dave
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits". Albert Einstein |
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