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mastergunner
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Japan already fishes our waters as does many Asian countries.
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Big John
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http://www.voice4dogs.org/index.html
I had put together a long list of links and pictures, then my internet connection failed, so just google the info if you want proff, there is more than enough out there.
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kyle
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| Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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a friend of mine just got back from china and yeah they eat dog but i dont think they do in japan
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Sam
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| Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Big John wrote: |
http://www.voice4dogs.org/index.html
I had put together a long list of links and pictures, then my internet connection failed, so just google the info if you want proff, there is more than enough out there. |
Stuff like that happens right here in our country too. It is pretty damn sad.
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Big John
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Yes, but it is illegal here. If you know of this kind of treatment to dogs or cats, call the authorities.
And over fishing is a world problem. But the Asian, primarily Japanese fleets, are right in the middle of it around the globe.
At our current rate, we have on a few decades of sustainable commercial fishing left before there just wont be any left.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6108414.stm
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Sam
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| Big John wrote: | Yes, but it is illegal here. If you know of this kind of treatment to dogs or cats, call the authorities.
And over fishing is a world problem. But the Asian, primarily Japanese fleets, are right in the middle of it around the globe.
At our current rate, we have on a few decades of sustainable commercial fishing left before there just wont be any left.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6108414.stm |
It is done by slaughterhouses on animals for consumption (sheep, goats, chickens, cattle, even horses). The government seems to have no problem with it, so I wouldn't say it is entirely illegal (I don't know if it is or isn't).
I agree with the overfishing. Something like 40 years is expected time, something like that. But what can you do about other countries in their waters Not much really, just hope they see the error of their ways. But we can do something in our own waters, and there is quite a bit to do as well.
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ironmanstan
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what kind of friggin human does that to a dog.beef and poultry are here for food. and theres alot of people to feed,i dont think chickens are not even smart enough to know that they are alive, i use to raise show chickens they are not real smart. they know how to eat ,and when the sun goes down they go to sleep only to wake up and eat some more.so i wouldnt worry to much about them.( i like mine fried ) and my steaks rare.on the other hand dolphins are smarter than most humans .they will still be around after man has killed himself off the face of the earth by his own hand.hopefully dogs will be too.my dog is my best friend. he has wit,and expression. is there truly a way to kill an animal ( in a humane way)?someone still has to adminster the blow, possibly a human.have a great day folks. anybody catchin any fish?
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topdog15
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Big John,
You don't have to look at the Asian fisherman to find people who don't care about what they're doing to the ocean's resources. Look out your own backdoor at the Gulf Shrimp fleet and what its done not only to shrimp populations, but croaker, flounder, snapper, etc. You should not be so quick to judge other cultures until you're willing to accept what's wrong with your own.
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marcus1977
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| Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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| ironmanstan wrote: | | what kind of friggin human does that to a dog.beef and poultry are here for food. and theres alot of people to feed,i dont think chickens are smart enough to know that they are even alive, i use to raise show chickens they are not real smart. they know how to eat ,and when the sun goes down they go to sleep only to wake up and eat some more.so i wouldnt worry to much about them.( i like mine fried ) and my steaks rare.on the other hand dolphins are smarter than most humans .they will still be around after man has killed himself off the face of the earth by his own hand.hopefully dogs will be too.my dog is my best friend. he has wit,and expression. is there truly a way to kill an animal ( in a humane way)?someone still has to adminster the blow, possibly a human.have a great day folks. anybody catchin any fish? |
I can agree with this post. I grew up on a farm a few hours north of here and I firmly believe that certain animals are food in a commercial sense like beef and poultry. No I don't agree with inhumane deaths (as quick and painless as possible should be the norm for commercial use). Fish are kind of a in between category type for me because you have farm raised catfish at the store (which I personaly don't care for) and then you have the "wild" fish. I just sounded in a few previous posts that I was about to hear how we should all become hardcore vegetarians and tree huggers. I still firmly believe in only killing what you eat whether it breathes through lungs or gills. I think that if everyone did that things would be better worldwide.
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topdog15
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If we are going to use intelligence as a marker for deciding whether an animal can be killed or not, a large percentage of the human population should be worried. Just because you don't think its "smart enough" or has a "little brain" doesn't mean that its nervous system does not relay pain in the same fashion as a bigger brained animal. I am not saying that we shouldn't kill or eat what we kill. I am a killer myself, although I disguise it under the title "hunter/fisherman" My argument is that no animal should have it's throat slit and be left to die: not dolphins, not chickens, not cows, dogs, or cats.
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Big John
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| topdog15 wrote: | Big John,
You don't have to look at the Asian fisherman to find people who don't care about what they're doing to the ocean's resources. Look out your own backdoor at the Gulf Shrimp fleet and what its done not only to shrimp populations, but croaker, flounder, snapper, etc. You should not be so quick to judge other cultures until you're willing to accept what's wrong with your own. |
You'll notice I said overfishing was a global problem, and last I checked, Texas was part of the globe. 
At least we attempt to regulate here via TEDS, by catch reduction devices, etc. Problem is that foreign countries troll right along the international water line, and dont have to obey the same laws our guys must.
BTW, not all commercial anglers are violating the law. Just that the ones that do, do so in such huge fashion.
Again, if you spot a commercial boat violating state, national, or even international laws, call the frigin authorities!
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safirenfish
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| Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:01 pm Post subject: Re: Dolphins |
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| omaka wrote: | | I always thought that dolphins and porpoises were protected worldwide. Just think, when Japan oceans run out of fish, mammals, etc. they'll come to U.S waters and start taking our resource. I hope we detain them bastages, lock them up and throw away the keys. |
i think the liberals in this country will find some sort of way to blame it on our failure to respect the asians way of life and allow them to deplete our fishing grounds and beg for their forgiveness for our being poor hosts. |
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marcus1977
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| Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:58 am Post subject: |
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| topdog15 wrote: | | If we are going to use intelligence as a marker for deciding whether an animal can be killed or not, a large percentage of the human population should be worried. Just because you don't think its "smart enough" or has a "little brain" doesn't mean that its nervous system does not relay pain in the same fashion as a bigger brained animal. I am not saying that we shouldn't kill or eat what we kill. I am a killer myself, although I disguise it under the title "hunter/fisherman" My argument is that no animal should have it's throat slit and be left to die: not dolphins, not chickens, not cows, dogs, or cats. |
I have been waiting for that permit to kill stupid people for a while, I know whereabouts of several..... 
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topdog15
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That video is pretty neat, I just hope it's not some mutation caused by pollution or something. If they do turn out to be what they are claiming, it would be a good way to demonstrate the relatedness of all animals. Even though dolphins have not exhibited hind limbs for millions of years, the genetic blueprint for making hindlimbs is still in their DNA, even if it's not normally expressed. Cool video
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