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Guest · Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 12:07 pm Post subject:

I was refered to this thread from a National 4wheelers club, Im in the Washington chapter. This thread has our national club members in quite an uproar in regards to those individuals behavior. Also has us reinforcing our rules/regulations more so. I just wanted to agree with all your comments on them, and thank you for sending emails/voicemails to the local club they were part of. On another note I just wanted to apologize, not that Im a president of any 4wheel club, for their behavior. Our local chapter takes pride keeping trails as pristine as possible. But I know there are the few that make us all look bad, we are working on taking action against those who do. I just thought I would drop in my 2 cents, I dont mean to offend anyone or intrude. Thank you.

Max Neher
WATTORA.com

Big John at work · Guest

Thanks for weighing in. Those of us who fish that area have 4wd vehicle because they are required, and do realize that these guys actions do not represent those of the general public, but only themselves.

In fact, I believe the 4wd club in question is more like a group of people who work together and use the club as a means to advertise their business more than enjoy true responsible 4wd enjoyment.

The driving is challenging enough on PINS much of the year to offer enjoyment and fun without destroying other areas, especially as the summer months progress and the soft sand stacks up. Those who want to challenge themselves and their driving abilities need only to drive on down the beach at high tide. Don't forget to bring fishing poles and sunscreen!

Guest · Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:01 pm Post subject:

http://www.tacomaterritory.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8459

Bluffer · Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:12 pm Post subject:

You saw it & I didnt so I believe what your saying. guess the "turtle patrol" has changed since I last saw them. At least we know who they are. But garrunteed as soon as you report them, they'll say its all volunteers & "we" dont do that.
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Walker · Guest

Hey i just wanted to say i like the site.came across the site and started reading everything...i just want to let yall know that i know the guys at toughcountry.I race motocross and i ride with one of the guys kids.i didnt see any pictures of the links posted so i cant say they are guilty or not..They are good guys but they do have there moments like all humans do on the planet..iam not taking any sides because i havnt seen any photos..if some one can give me a link and i can see them well i can have something done about this..iam a good friend of the owner..well g2g to sleep..hopfully i will meet some of you out on the surf

Guest · Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:00 pm Post subject: Re: Shop

GoinCoastal · Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:46 pm Post subject:

The pics on that thread are from their trip to Matagorda Beach. It isn't protected. Does anyone have those pics in their internet temp files??? If you do, email them to Tyler so he can post them here.

These guys need to hung up by their balls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bryanccfshr · Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:58 pm Post subject:

It's hard to tell where these are .

http://www.toughcountry.com/Pictures/CHEVY/dud%20jeep.jpg

http://www.toughcountry.com/Pictures/CHEVY/dud.jpg

http://www.toughcountry.com/Pictures/CHEVY/dudley.jpg

http://www.toughcountry.com/Pictures/CHEVY/kevin.jpg

http://www.toughcountry.com/Pictures/CHEVY/kyle%201.jpg

http://www.toughcountry.com/Pictures/CHEVY/kyle%202.jpg

http://www.toughcountry.com/Pictures/CHEVY/kyle%203.jpg

http://www.toughcountry.com/Pictures/CHEVY/trucks.jpg

Bryanccfshr · Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 10:13 pm Post subject:

Guest · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 10:14 am Post subject:

here's a link for a snap shot of the web page.

http://216.109.117.135/search/cache?p=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.toughcountry.com%2FPadre.htm&sm=Yahoo%21+Search&toggle=1&ei=UTF-8&u=www.toughcountry.com/Padre.htm&d=FFAEC257AE&icp=1&.intl=us

Guest · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 10:20 am Post subject:

here's more

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:v6MqvmYvn1sJ:www.toughcountry.com/matagorda.htm+&hl=en

http://www.toughcountry.com/Pictures/CHEVY/

FlakMan · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:29 pm Post subject: Idiots - F-ing Idiots

F-ing idiots. I do not care if it's PINS or Matagorda but making new ruts behind the dunes is against every "thread carefully" policy the 4WD community adheres to.

On PINS it is a serious crime, jail time and confication of their vehicles can result.

If you see someone abusing the previledge we have to drive on the beach, get the plates, descriptions and TURN THEM IN! Evil or Very Mad

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Bluffer · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:16 pm Post subject:

Nice to know who the idiots are......look for them toughcountry.com decals.
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guest · Guest

Hello,
My name is Kurt Pratka and it is my email address (kurt@toughcountry.com)that is linked on the Tough Country website. In response to the threads that are currently circulating regarding the pictures that were posted on our website, I would like to note that any and all of the "offensive" pictures have been removed.
Nearly all of the pictures on the site that depict 4 x 4 activity are contributions from our customers and/or like minded individuals. We at Tough Country apologize for the mistake of posting these contributed pictures, and will screen future contributions much more closely.
With regard to all of the pictures, and since most were contributed, we cannot possibly discern the whereabouts of where all of the pictures were actually taken. Some of the pictures that were actually taken on private property were placed in the pages due to space considerations. The pictures that were actually taken on PINS--specifically the pictures of the jeep that appears to be behind the vegetation line, were on the road/trail that runs alongside of the Port Mansfield Channel. As the vehicles were traveling the road/trail, that one in particular became stuck and had to be pulled out.
It must be noted however, that shortly after the vehicle was pulled out from the road/trail beside the PMC, a park ranger did visit the camp and she explained the error of our ways. From that point forward, the entire group followed her instructions explicitly. In addition to being visited by the Park Ranger, members of the US Coast Guard and US Border Patrol also visited our camp frequently during our stay on the PINS.
Holding a company such as ours responsible or up to boycott for the activities of individuals is ludicrous at best. If you are going to suggest such a course of action, then why not hold JEEP, Ford, Dodge, and General Motors responsible or up to boycott as well? Certainly they do not accept responsibility for the actions of individual drivers of their vehicles, as Tough Country cannot accept responsibility for those same individuals who choose to display a sticker.
Tough Country does not condone or endorse any destructive or detrimental activities. In fact, some of the individual employees are very active in keeping the Texas beaches clean and open. In March of this year, some of our employees and friends participated in Captain Billy Sandifer's Annual Beach Cleanup on PINS. The following weekend, the same individuals conducted a beach cleanup on Matagorda Island. Their efforts on Matagorda Island netted three dump-truck loads of garbage that was picked up starting at the 3 mile cut and extending the next 4 miles. In fact, if you would like to participate in the next Matagorda Beach cleanup effort, please contact myself or Richard (richard@toughcountry.com).
If you have any questions or would like respond directly to me, please feel free to do so.
Thank You,
Kurt Pratka
Tough Country Products

tyler · Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:17 am Post subject: Re: PINS