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crab_n_fisher · Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:13 pm Post subject: Quality of Penn Reels?

I have been researching Penn reels the past few days. One website caught my eye, figuratively speaking. With its listing of various Penn conventional models I became confused as to the quality between the ones listed. Are there noticable or significant differences (construction design, drag pressure, bearings, washers, etc) between, say, a Penn Black Senator 113, a Red 113H or even a Longbeach 267? If so, then the descriptions are not available -- at least not to my preferences. All show a line capacity of 475 yards of 30# mono.

The website -------> http://www.anglerdepot.com/htm/reels/PennConvReel.asp

I understand that one "gets what ya pay for". But I also know a "sucker is born every minute". Pushing cliches aside, has anyone experienced using all three of these models; and, if so, could you please help this newbie to learn the differences, both significant and minute, and what is the best buy?

Thanks in advance!

(PS...Are these reels good for Crappie fishing too? Ok, I see the smart-***** are coming!)
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Jolly Roger · Mud Minnow Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 30

esanborn · Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 7:50 am Post subject:

The Penn Senator line has a few variants on the standard models. Consider the 113 Model: There's the 113, 113H, 113 HLW, and 113 HSP. Some of the variants have changed over the years. For example, the "L" used to refer to a lighter (Al) spool, but all variants (Except HSP) now have the Al spool.The primary differences are:

113- Plain (sleeve) bearings. 2:1 ratio.
113H- Ball Bearings, 3.25:1 ratio, (now has Al spool), larger drag.
113 HLW - Ball bearings, 3.25:1 ratio, wide spool, Al spool, larger drag.
113 HSP - Ball bearings, bronze spool, 3.25:1 ratio, larger drag.

Other than the indicated items, all other parts are the same between these models - also frame is different on W models. The W model has 25% or so greater line capacity.

Penn also has a very nice new reel, "Baja Special", based on the common after market mod kits to the 113 (YTS), this model is a radical departure from the base 113 design, with five Ball Bearings, Al frame, narrow spool, and 4.25:1 ratio

I'm not as familiar with the LB models, but they appear to have much smaller drags, sleeve bearings, and lighter construction overall.
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pennspin · Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 8:12 am Post subject: How did you think I would reply

I don't know from personal experience about every reel Penn makes but the ones I have used for years have never let me down. Just hose'm off when your done a little WD-40 and get on with it. I break mine down 1 time per year for a real cleaning.

crab_n_fisher · Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:45 pm Post subject: I am happy! :)

Thank you for all the good advice! It certainly helps to know the differences before buying the first 4/0 reel.....It is amazing the amount of time and effort other fellow fishers will put into answering an honest question. It shows what kind of people -- good people -- are on this message board!

Esanborn, I was imagining "LW" stood for "level-wind"!!! Embarassed

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rabbit · Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:22 pm Post subject:

What would be a decent size pen reel to put on a 10 ft surf rod? I would be using 20 lb line not into big shark fishing. Very Happy

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Jolly Roger · Mud Minnow Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 30

rabbit · Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:24 am Post subject:

Anything from pomps to reds. 330 yd line capacity. Was using a walmart tidewater 30LA.
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Jolly Roger · Mud Minnow Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 30

meadowlark · Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 6:11 am Post subject:

If you want the the best reel for the money that is totally easy to care for and virtually indestructable, I vote for the Jigmaster 500. Take down with one screw and change spools or clean. Perfect for surf or pier and will cast almost as far as reels costing 3x as much.

I liken it to my ford van. It has a straight 6 and is a plain cargo van. It has 410,000 miles on it and I can load it will 3,600 lbs of cargo and run it coast to coast without missing a lick. I can change the plugs and points in 30 minutes.
Would I rather drive a hummer? Sure if I was rich and could afford the maintence done often and by professional dealerships. It seems, at least the civilian version, spends a lot of time in the shop.

Just MHO> Jerry
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rabbit · Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 11:50 am Post subject:

Thanks for the info. Very Happy

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austintx · Shark Wrangler Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 2

how about the 9500ss penn reel on a 10ft surf rod?

Kyle aka Kcon · Tarpon King Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 208

I'll catch some flack here but the SS series sucks! If it get's wet once, the antireverse will die, then it's a slow death to the end. Get a Nautil or an Emblem x or z or anything but an SS. There are many spinning reels that are better, if fact, it would be hard to find one that was worse. ................kyle
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Guest · Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:31 am Post subject:

MD · Guest

What about the Penn 320 and 330 on a 10" rod? Work good for me.