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Pelican418
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 11:39 am    Post subject: Questions about going on the Wharf Cat Reply with quote

Unfortunately I can't afford my own boat or to charter one so I am going to try the Wharf Cat for the first time. Hope there are some out there who have gone on them. Was mostly wondering if maybe I should take some kind of other baits along then the ribbon fish, squid, or minnows they provide. If so which ones?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 3:38 pm    Post subject: Bait for Wharf Cat Reply with quote

Depends on what kind of trip - drifting for kingfish or anchoring for snapper - the Cat's scheduled for. If it's the snapper run you're on, take some mullet. Large finger mullet or chunks of big ones are what the bigger snappers, grouper and amberjack love. You may also want to take your own terminal tackle with bigger circle hooks than the crew provides.

The chief reason for this bait and hook swap is that the snapper change their preferred diet from invertebrates like squid to fish as they grow, and bigger baits naturally need bigger hooks. Since the catch limit is so small, you need to concentrate on catching the biggest snapper you can, anyway.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pelican, post a followup after the trip about your experiance. I will be going out with deepsea hq next weekend. I have never been on a trip like this so we will see how it goes. I have always heard horror stories about tangled messes on the party boats but if the trip goes well, you cant beat it for under $100.00 per person.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:57 am    Post subject: Dramamine - Not just for the weak! Reply with quote

Take Dramamine. I thought I was tough because I had spent my whole life on area lakes with no problems. I was loosing my lunch before we even reached the fishing spot.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Mr. French - take some mullet, or other live bait. Last time I went out on a charter boat we were going after snapper. Everyone fishing on or near the bottom with cut bait, squid, etc. There were several BIG amberjack cruising just under the surface, but none would hit the cut bait. They would just look at it and swim off. There was one guy on there that had some live mullet. He caught 2 , 40#+ fish, letting the mullet freeline a few feet down. After he landed the second fish, he started selling mullet for like $5 and $10 each. Take some live bait.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I took the dramameine. No help there. The seas were running 7 to 10 feet. It did take me a couple hours to get sick, then I wished I would die, LOL. It was not a good experience for catching either. Only one king caught the whole time. Oh well, heck I've gone with guides at 400 bucks out of my pocket to catch 3 fish, so the 40 bucks was a deal.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pelican418 wrote:
Ok, I took the dramameine. No help there.


Did you take one the night before and also in the morning right before the trip? I don't recall if it says to on the box but a doctor recommended that to me and it has always worked. I haven't been seasick yet.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:31 pm    Post subject: Seasick Reply with quote

Another thing that will help with seasickness is ginger. Take along a box of ginger snaps and at the first sign of queasiness, eat some. We use that technique on our sailboat all the time with guests.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:51 pm    Post subject: the patch Reply with quote

go to the doc and get the patch that you put behind yer ear the nite before. those work fer shur.
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Mike B.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 9:34 pm    Post subject: Questions about going on the Wharf Cat Reply with quote

I thought I would never get seasick, I WAS WRONG!!! I had been offshore about 6 times before but went out last week and was sick as a dog. I am still not sure if I had a minor flu bug or if it was seasickness. How can you tell?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 1:13 am    Post subject: Re: Questions about going on the Wharf Cat Reply with quote

Mike B. wrote:
I am still not sure if I had a minor flu bug or if it was seasickness. How can you tell?


A minor flu bug consists of sniffles, a sore throat, cough, and a slight fever.

Seasickness consists of turning green, sweating, headache, extreme nausea, dizzines, vertigo, vomiting your guts out (hopefully over the rail), sense of impending doom, slowing of time and accounting of all your present cash and resources to bribe the Captain go back to port.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:40 am    Post subject: Seasickness Reply with quote

The only sure cure for being seasick is to shoot yourself in the head and get it over with. There is nothing, NOTHING worse in this world than chumming for 6 or 8 hours on end. I have tried the patch before, but the side effects were very strange. I had "cotton mouth" the whole time. I drank so much water that I was in the bathroom more often than if I had been seasick. And it made my eyes very sensetive to light. So, while not peeing or squinting, I was able to catch a few fish. Think I will stick to wadefishing. Sheesh.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually take Dramamine about 1 hour before the trip just for reassurance. If the seas are rocking, pounding a few lite beers seems to help me out. One method someone once told me was to focus on a stationary object away from the boat, such as an oil rig or land if you are close enough. Looking down or inside the boat while rocking can really mess with your equilibrium.

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Barnacle Bill
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something I know about. Party boat fishing. Live bait is a must! Go out the night before with a sabiki and catch piggy perch, croaker and whatever else is around the docks, piers or rocks. Then that morning, buy as much live bait as you believe you'll use, then buy a couple dozen more, LOL. I have 2 coolers, one for live bait that my boys and I take onto the boat and another for food, water, etc. I also have my own rods and tackle. The only time I want to see a deckhand is when he is gaffing my fish although there are some top quality deckhands out there that deserve big tips. I take as much live bait as I can get in that cooler. I put poggie saver in there and it helps keep them alive. I do not sell bait on the boat. I'll give it away towards the end of the trip if me (and my boys if they come with me) are limited and I don't want to take the chance of dragging another big snapper or AJ up. To me it is a waste of time to drag a fish up from the bottom and have to release him, especially if he's big. I don't believe the survival rate is very high and don't want to risk killing a fish for nothing. Freelining around the boat is fun if there aren't too many folks. Getting a big run that wraps 10 other folks lines will get ya some upset company.
IMHO, buy your own tackle. I have my own and it's a heck of a lot better than what some of the boats supply.
Just my .02.
Nothing to do about the seasickness. I've never gotten seasick in my life but I probably will now. LOL
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will be going out on the gulf eagle with deepsea hq saturday, Thanks for all the tips, Im not so much worried about me getting sick, but my wife is prone to it. B Bill, what boat do you go out on that will let you bring your own gear, I tried with deepsea hq but they said no
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