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catfish · Horse Mullet Joined: 06 Nov 2006 Posts: 125

If you have not read the new TEXAS MONTHLY get one. Cover story is T.Boone Pickens saving the enviroment with his Turbines. Ol' T.Boone aint nobodys fool. He used to have to pay to drill the well then pay for the electricity to power the well and then pay to lay a pipeline and compressor station to get his product to the sales meter. Now he will Drill the well "Wind Turbine" use the wind to power it FREE and his plan will have you and I paying for the pipeline "Upgraded Electric Grid" Free to Ol Boone Pickens to get his product to the sales meter. Cool

Now why did I not think of that. Cool

My hat is off to the Ol' Salt . I hope I can still remember my name at 80 years.

FlakMan · Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:12 am Post subject:

Wind power is far from free it is only partially re-newable as it must be combined on the grid with some type of lignite or gas fired power source that spins up as the wind dies for you have a brown-out. Modern wind turbines cost ~$2,000,000 each installed!

Wind power is great but many fail to see it is NOT stand-alone. Areas best suited for wind power currently do not have enough grid to move this wind energy to the big cities where power is needed.

Electric power is generated at power plants and then moved to substations by transmission lines—large, high-voltage power lines. This network of transmission lines is known as the "grid." Texas currently leads the nation in wind development, and the Texas electric transmission grid has a critical need for expansion. Wind energy production in remote areas of the state has jumped dramatically over the past few years, putting heavy demands on the transmission systems that deliver electricity from the best resource locations in remote areas to where it will be used in urban areas.

The greatest challenge facing the wind industry is that wind farms can be built more quickly than transmission lines. It can take a year to build a wind farm, but five to build the transmission lines needed to send power to cities. Wind power developers are reluctant to build where transmission lines do not yet exist; and utilities are equally reluctant to install transmission in areas that do not yet have power generators. Senate Bill 20 attempts to solve this dilemma with long-term planning that will meet the state's transmission needs into the 21st century by providing for electricity transmission to wind-rich areas ahead of wind farm development.

In 2006, Texas Governor Rick Perry announced commitments of $10 billion from private companies to increase wind generating capacity in the state by 7,000 megawatts, contingent on the Texas Public Utility Commission (PUC) approving construction of additional transmission capacity to windy areas of the state.

In 2007, the PUC announced its approval for additional transmission lines that could deliver 10,000 more megawatts of renewable power by 2012. New transmission infrastructure will allow all Texans to access the the state's vast wind resource.

Texas is the OPEC of wind in the USA. We have the potential with our natural gas, nuclear, hydro-electric and lignite resources to supply all of the power Texas needs for the forseeable future - let the rest of the dad gum "not in my backyard" liberals freeze in the dark.

Drake · Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:46 am Post subject: Wind Turbines

Flakman - Where did you get the $2mm figure? I am not challenging it just curious. The research I have done leads me to believe the manufactuers have reached critical mass and the prices have dropped drasticlly.

frayed · Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 12:14 pm Post subject:

FlakMan · Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: Wind Turbines