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Lost Cajun Flour Bluffian in training

Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 474 Location: Midland, TX
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:14 am Post subject: Need a Boat recomendation for offshore and flats fishing |
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Hi folks,
I have a buddy that just bought a weekend place in AP and is now looking for a boat to fish both flats and offshore. He asked for my opinion, but I know ya'll can give him much better info.
I also want to send him some good safety and navigation links. I've copied several off this forum to email to him. If any of you have some wisdom you want to share with a newbie please do so. I'll email him this thread.
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Tyler Site Admin

Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 12865
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:35 am Post subject: |
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A tough beast to find. A boat good for the flats will not have a deeper vee type hull which is better for heading offshore and a good offshore boat won't go very shallow.
I'd concentrate on getting a boat based on the type of fishing I would be doing most. |
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Bayslammer Member White Shrimper Boot Club

Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 932 Location: Baffin/ULM/Aransas
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Kenner, Sea Pro, Pathfinder, Haynie ect. 22' plus with a big gastank. _________________ Grind |
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skunked Member White Shrimper Boot Club

Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 781 Location: Corpus Christi
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:15 am Post subject: |
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| 2200 Bay Ranger. Floats in a foot. Needs 2 foot to take off. Has lots of room and can handle rough water. |
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landlocked beachbum Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 5811 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:18 am Post subject: |
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I agree with Tyler, that's a tough order to fill. Those two fishing styles are at opposite ends of the boating spectrum. One thing to remember though, a nice 22' size range of some of those mentioned can do reasonably well at both [depending on how shallow and/or how big the seas] but if you buy used be careful of just price shopping. With today's fuel prices a "cheap" boat /motor combo might really eat into your wallet as compared to a more expensive combo with a newer/lighter building method [Pathfinder] and I newer technology motor. _________________ Dave
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits". Albert Einstein |
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HighTide Member White Shrimper Boot Club

Joined: 10 Mar 2008 Posts: 552 Location: Padre Isles
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:30 am Post subject: |
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I agree with what has been commented about a dual purpose boat. I think your friend needs to decide which kind of fishing he is going to do most often. I you are going offshore only ocassionally, don't bother to accomodate that ability. A Pathfinder is one of the smoothest and dryest boats I have ever ridden in rough waters. I would highly recommend it for offshore.
On the other hand, I own a 21' - 5" Shallow Sport. It may beat you to death in rough waters, but I can take off in 8" of water and run in 4" for a short distance. But, that works for me and the type of fishing I do. If the wind kicks up and the water gets rough, I just hug the shore line and can run at a much faster clip than most boats trying to traverse the rough waters.
You can get a boat that's a compromise, but that's exactly what it will be: a compromise. Your friend will just have to choose or buy 2 boats.
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HighTide Member White Shrimper Boot Club

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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:32 am Post subject: |
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The 3rd sentence should start "If you are going offshore....."
Sorry,
Carlos |
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bk005 Member White Shrimper Boot Club

Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 511 Location: San Antonio :(
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:37 am Post subject: |
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Well if you like to wade, and dont need to run skinny, I wouldnt mind having one of these.
http://www.androsboats.com/23.cfm |
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MJW Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 1150 Location: Cedar Park, Texas
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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Well you actually got quite a few reponses to Your boat questions. _________________ Work hard to play harder!!!
MeetMikeandLori.com |
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Lost Cajun Flour Bluffian in training

Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 474 Location: Midland, TX
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the responses.
I checked in with him and he said what he's probably looking for is a bay boat that does well off shore. He'll fish the bays 90% of the time and head off shore less than 20 miles when its nice.
Sounds like the Kenner, Pathfinder, Sea Pro etc., something with a Deep V, 21' foot and over is where he wants to start looking. |
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ccbobber Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 21 May 2006 Posts: 2359 Location: The Island
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:23 pm Post subject: boats |
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easiest answer is buy two boats, one for each purpose. _________________ ccbobber |
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crhfish Member White Shrimper Boot Club

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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Thats what I did, I have a Hewes tailfisher for the flats and a Kenner for the longer bay runs and close offshore.
If you are just fishing the bays and not real concerned about running skinny, a Kenner, Pathfinder, Bluewave, etc, will work just fine. |
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Capt. Billy L. Sandifer Horse Mullet
Joined: 21 Mar 2006 Posts: 109 Location: Flour Bluff, Tx.
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:05 pm Post subject: boat for offshore or flats |
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My panga gets up clean in 2' of water runs in 1.' and is capable of handling large swells offshore. Sounds like it to me. But then I already knew that and that is why I have it. Capt. Billy _________________ If we don't leave any there won't be any. |
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Tyler Site Admin

Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 12865
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:22 pm Post subject: Re: boat for offshore or flats |
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| Capt. Billy L. Sandifer wrote: | | My panga gets up clean in 2' of water runs in 1.' and is capable of handling large swells offshore. Sounds like it to me. But then I already knew that and that is why I have it. Capt. Billy |
He's right but his is the true panga, some of the US models have much wider beams than the original design.
Billy's does run shallow. We had five guys on it and ran it around Shamrock in a foot of water.
So look for one soon at your nearest DEA auction  |
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wannafish Flour Bluffian in training

Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 360 Location: CC
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:26 pm Post subject: My .02 |
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Pathfinder 22'
floats in 1' and gets up in 1.5'(not as easy) 2' EZ!
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