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New Trout Regulations - Public Hearing Next week
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Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 12:29 pm    Post subject: New Trout Regulations - Public Hearing Next week Reply with quote

The Texas Parks and Wildlife will be holding several public hearings regarding the newly proposed speckled trout regulations. The meeting here will be at the Natural Resource Center (NRC) building on the TAMUCC campus next Tuesday from 6-8pm. Second building on the right when you come in the first entrance. The proposal is to drop the current trout regulations down to three fish from 17-23 inches for two years, from Matagorda bay south down to the border.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Waste of time , Pretty sure that TP&W already know what they are going to do.


Razz

This is Deja Vu all over again. Exactly how the redfish limits got to where they are today. Started at 5 fish in the '80s and ended up where we are today. If I remember correctly the change from 5 to 3 was done approx. a year after the 5 fish limit was adopted.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good deal. I hope they get on with it and get it passed soon. We need to give these trout a couple years to come back. There are definitely enough fish to repopulate and recover but the Laguna has never seen pressure like it has the last few years. We kept mainly black drum to eat this summer. There are certainly plenty of drum if you go looking and they taste good to me.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Mike or Speckled Trout. This will be put in place and will not change in our live times, just like the Redfish limits.

Boat prices so high, gas, repairs, and fishing equipment, I think it is getting soo expensive to fish and only keep a few fish for the money it costs to enjoy.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A tag system like with deer, or other game animals is the ultimate way to regulate the game fish. Each licensed person should have X number of tags for the year for whatever regulated fish. That being said, I realize there would still need to be limits for times like we are experiencing. Also, the new limits, if established will only be applicable for a couple of years if it's based on TXP&WL resource sampling, as in the past.
The planned change in limits is to expire August 3, 2023, reportedly. https://tpwd.texas.gov/newsmedia/releases/?req=20211224a


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Southeast Of Disorder wrote:
. This will be put in place and will not change in our live times, just like the Redfish limits.



while we're waiting for Rowsey to jump in here, I'll respond to you S.E., because you brought up an excellent point...."in our live times" (sic)....lets think about all the changes that have occurred over the past 30-40 years....

start with the redfish back in the early 80's.....think about it and give us your thoughts.....

I'll wait....
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ANY proposed regulations on salt water trout are silly. There's a reason why you don't see them in food stores or on menus. They are only caught on a line and hook, and only by recreational fishing... They don't "school." There's no commercial market for them. And they are probably the most sustainable fish in any water. Don't take my word on it. Use your eyes.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen the trout limits go from no limit in numbers or length to the current proposed limit of 3 in the past 71 years. I started fishing when I was 7. The biggest changes came after the freezes, with the exception in 2014, which was a crystal ball look into future people population and fisherpersons.
The best thing that could be done to maintain and increase the trout populations is stop the barge traffic in the ICW from Houston to Brownsville after a freeze. Please, to say the reason they don't is monatary. It's only happens around 10 years and I'm sure the barge companies could work with that. Those products are going to Mexico. They can wait.
To stop barges for a couple of days the save the trout population I really belive is the right way to go, with current 5 fish limit.

The redfish limits changed in the late 80's. I remember public hearings in the mid '80s. Although I did hear that a few years back TP&W attempted to
add another redfish to the slot limit but there wasn't a bunch of advertising to do so. I read an story in one of the lower coast newspaper. No takers?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with it, just wish the left the bottom of the slot at 15". I'm not saying they have to discourage culling, but it makes no sense to encourage or even require it. If folks want to eat 3 16" trout let em.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

speckled.trout wrote:

The best thing that could be done to maintain and increase the trout populations is stop the barge traffic in the ICW from Houston to Brownsville after a freeze. Please, to say the reason they don't is monatary. It's only happens around 10 years and I'm sure the barge companies could work with that. Those products are going to Mexico. They can wait.
To stop barges for a couple of days the save the trout population I really belive is the right way to go, with current 5 fish limit.

Mike


I agree with you 110%, and I'm on a committee that is working with the Barge Association....the problem is that not all operators are in the Barge Association...it's the "free-lancers" from LA who continue to mess it up....but I like to think that there was so much outrage last year that they finally caught on....we'll see the next time it occurs...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well beckey I wish I could agree with what your doing 110% but IMHO verbal agreements don't work and a hand shake and mans word has no value aymore.
The only way that they will get stopped is by a federal law being pass to stop the traffic. I'm sure Rep Mike Cloud will listen to the group your working with. He could put the bill on a add on of Pelosi's money give away and get it passed.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

speckled.trout wrote:
I'm sure Rep Mike McCloud will listen to the group your working with. He could put the bill on a add on of Pelosi's money give away and get it passed.

ST

bahahahahahha!!! actually, I'm going to see one of Cloud's local reps this afternoon, I'll ask him....ha!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dena vu all over again from 2003.
Keep it going!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those who don't know what happened in
2003..........
Spotted seatrout regulations were enacted
that created a maximum size limit of 25
inches with a bag limit of 10 fish, one of
which could be >25 inches in length.
Regulation of fishing guides also occurred
with the creation of a boat limit for paying
customers and the requirement that a
saltwater fishing guide in Texas also have
U.S. Coast Guard certification.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm wrote:
speckled.trout wrote:
I'm sure Rep Mike McCloud will listen to the group your working with. He could put the bill on a add on of Pelosi's money give away and get it passed.

ST

actually, I'm going to see one of Cloud's local reps this afternoon, I'll ask him....ha!
becky


Bring back some pictures. I'd like to see what my taxes are paying for.

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