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fairhunt1
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 Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:27 am Post subject: piggy perch |
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Any body know why none of the bait houses are getting any piggy perch this year? They normally have them by July 1st. We were down last month and none were to be had.
A friend that is down there now just told me he's not seeing any pig flags ?? |
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R.Arnold
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| Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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| I heard they were setting traps and not having any luck, so they aren't setting them for now. Not sure how true that is. |
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Donnie
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| Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Whats the difference between piggy perch and pin perch? I thought that was one and the same.
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Tyler
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| Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Donnie wrote: | | Whats the difference between piggy perch and pin perch? I thought that was one and the same. |
The pigfish is a member of the grunt family and a pinfish is that little bugger with the "Pin" spike located near their anus that sticks you when you grab them! Scientific enough? 
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Donnie
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| Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Tyler wrote: | | Donnie wrote: | | Whats the difference between piggy perch and pin perch? I thought that was one and the same. |
The pigfish is a member of the grunt family and a pinfish is that little bugger with the "Pin" spike located near their anus that sticks you when you grab them! Scientific enough? |
Thanks - thats great.
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ratherbefishing
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| Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Donnie, on this forum, is a Sticky for Sea Creature ID.
I clicked on it, then Fishes. Here is the link.
http://txmarspecies.tamug.edu/fish%20names%20table.cfm
Scroll down to Pigfish and Pinfish. There are pictures to show the difference...
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Donnie
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| Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks - that did clear it up. Pin perch i have used for bait for ever, not sure i have ever used a piggy perch for bait.
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bd0202
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| Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Donnie wrote: |
Thanks - that did clear it up. Pin perch i have used for bait for ever, not sure i have ever used a piggy perch for bait. |
My dad calls both species 'piggies' even though as a young adult I learned the difference for myself. Pin a perfect bait size usually, while pigs can get a bit big - especially in the surf. But I consider myself an expert at catching them...I once filled up the entire T-end of a pier in Rockport catching them one after another when I was young. They were hitting so fast I think I was averaging 1 every 45 seconds or so. My dad couldn't keep up using them for bait, so most we threw back, but let's just say the pelicans loved me too.
Also, a mess of pigs can make for a good meal if you're not catching much else. Most people don't bother with them because they are so small and bony, but they taste wonderful - white meat! Along the same line as whiting - you can make a good meal out of catching enough of them.
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BayFly
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| Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:36 am Post subject: |
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Although I am no expert on bait fishing, I understand there are those who prefer the pigfish to the croaker, or at least as much, due to their grunt being like the croaker. FWIW, I read an article recently where the comment was made that crab is the best bait for trapping piggy perch. Anyone have any experience with trapping piggy perch and what bait is best, other than game fish, of coarse. 
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fairhunt1
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| Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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I prefer pigs because they are much hardier and survive better in the Laguna.
I wade fish and croakers tend to start dying almost immediately when you put them in a bucket in the warmer Laguna water.
Most pigs will stay good all morning long. |
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bd0202
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| Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:53 am Post subject: |
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| BayFly wrote: | | Although I am no expert on bait fishing, I understand there are those who prefer the pigfish to the croaker, or at least as much, due to their grunt being like the croaker. FWIW, I read an article recently where the comment was made that crab is the best bait for trapping piggy perch. Anyone have any experience with trapping piggy perch and what bait is best, other than game fish, of coarse. |
My dad and I made a homemade perch trap one year and we baited it with canned dog food. It worked like a champ, but it rusted pretty fast too (haha). We probably shouldn't have made it from uncoated chicken wire, but it was based on a clover-leaf design he created and that was the most flexible material we could think of. Probably should have had a tetanus shot too, I remember being stabbed by it a few times LOL.
But they are a lot like hardheads - they'll eat just about anything.
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ziacatcher
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| Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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| I had one of those uncoated chicken-wire clover leaf ones. They work fantastic. It seemed like the perch did not shy away from them like they did to the black coated rectangular ones. |
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bd0202
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| Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:36 am Post subject: |
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| ziacatcher wrote: | | I had one of those uncoated chicken-wire clover leaf ones. They work fantastic. It seemed like the perch did not shy away from them like they did to the black coated rectangular ones. |
Amen brother!
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Vern
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| Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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FWIW an idy bidy hook and idy bidy piece of shrimp or fish bite will catch all you want in a short time from a lot of different places.
I know,,,, I taught my wife to catch them because she will eat almost any fish and once when nothing was biting and she was a little disappointed I remembered my dad teaching me to catch them when I was a kid.
I set her up and turned her loose and she takes home 30+ whenever she goes after them, that is when better things arent biting.
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BayFly
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| Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:50 am Post subject: |
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Have to love those fishing wives, especially the bait catchers!  |
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