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Cricket
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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2019 10:05 am    Post subject: Staying Put Reply with quote

Got a question for my fishing friends: How long do you stay at a potential fishing location when nothing seems to be biting? How long is long enough before moving to another spot to fish? I'm talking about fishing out of a boat in the Laguna Madre. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2019 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good question! If you have been recently like the day before and you have confidence you will get a bite sometimes I stay long. I fished one little hole on the beach for 45 minutes knowing the conditions that would be the only spot I would have a shot at a fat trout. Smile I got two bites in 3:45hrs of fishing and 110 miles on my truck. Your mileage and patience may vary! Very Happy
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bulldog1935
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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2019 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you might want to visit Tobin's YouTube channel - there's a lot of great information there on finding fish, effects of tide and wind currents
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8H0c6pOm2g
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCW8aHtUw4x9wB-gFyBcOjvg
he of course has a line of detailed and informative dvd's, but his free YouTube stuff is all worth watching.
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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2019 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bulldog is giving you some excellent advice. I have met and know many fishermen who have been fishing for many years and say they don't pay any attention to the tides. They may not know it, but they do, they just don't know what is causing the changes they are experiencing. Tobin's advice can save a person a lot of time and money in learning what influences the changes they experience everyday on the water. I'm an old timer, and have learned a lot of what Tobin espouses, but it has taken me much longer than it will take you to watch a few videos. You may not absorb and be able to use all of what you observe in any one video the next trip, but you will began identifying what he is describing, thus you will eventually put it all together. As an alternative, you can go spend mucho $$$ with several guides and eventually learn over time, or you can do like me and when you are about ready for your pine box you may know a lot of what Tobin is trying to teach. Good luck and enjoy! BTW, I have never met Tobin, but have watch a couple of his videos.
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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2019 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always say with a power boat you can frustrate yourself running from place to place looking for fish.
With a kayak, you're stuck with the day's plan - you can't go anywhere faster than walking pace.
A good paddle is always planned around the wind and the tide, and should be planned like a sail, doing your upwind work first, so the day's wind will mostly bring you home.

E.g. - I can't get out to play this Saturday, but there's a new moon, neek tide overnight, and a strong falling tide beginning at 8am, SSE wind 12kt.
If I could get out, I'd be fishing the passes on the Aransas Bay side at Outside Beach on Estes - it's straight upwind to get there. Then drift fish Estes back to Palm Harbor looking for reds.

Last month when we fished the cold front - strong wind from 3 directions in 3 days. We picked places to launch that we could use the wind to get home (Mustang Island on the NW wind), and began the mornings fishing the insides of the cuts on the strong rising tides.
We caught slot reds on the flats every day. Both SW and SE wind days, we found trout stacking up at the inside of cuts with the rising tide currents. But on the NW wind, there should have been a rising tide, but the wind current coming off the flat was stronger than the tide.



here you go, Josh plots our trails from his GPS recorder
Estes on SSW wind - you can see multiple drifts where we're on fish - except that first drift in Aransas Bay. When Josh went through the cut, I stayed on the inside to wade, and was on trout.



NNW wind on East Flat



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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2019 3:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Staying Put Reply with quote

Cricket wrote:
Got a question for my fishing friends: How long do you stay at a potential fishing location when nothing seems to be biting? How long is long enough before moving to another spot to fish? I'm talking about fishing out of a boat in the Laguna Madre. Thanks.


Hey Cricket, are you talking fishing bait or lures. Does make a difference.

If I'm throwing bait (croaker or pigs) I fish from 15 - 30 min in each location until I get a bite started. Fishing with lures or live shrimp it depends on how long a drift I'm making locating the fish.



Mike
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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2019 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, if bait, then after 3 catfish it is time to move. Maybe not far. But move.
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2019 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

95% of the time, I fish with bait. Some good information from you fellows. I'll definitely check out the videos on You Tube. Thanks.
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