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[Donnie]

I have a fly rod , a friend left it here a long time ago. He had lived in the washington area, and said he used this rig for salmon,about 5 years or so earlier. Its been on my wall - for 50 years, not kidding, he moved away in 1968. I ordered some fly leaders , fly line, backing - and am going to take this with me, so some calm morning (when I am by myself - dont want this recorded) - I am going to try to use this in the surf. For you guys that do this , what kind of flies, lures - or what do you use in the surf with a fly rod.
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Don - permanent prescription of salt water therapy.

[bulldog1935]

copying this post over here on the duplicate thread - I love this simple fly.

[Donnie]

BD, what have you caught on this color combination ? The same color combo on a kastmaster spoon, i caught a couple of slot reds, and lost a larger one. Some one had been throwing these spoons - with the blue and white - posted it here - or on facebook, dont remember, but last december or january - and their report was, they did very well on it.
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Don - permanent prescription of salt water therapy.

[bulldog1935]

In the bays, most often fish dark olive on top, chartreuse next, above white (of course you tie them the other way).
I've caught grand slam on that fly in the bays, and at the jetties smacks and kings.
Blue is a really great night-time color, and is also a great combination for daytime in the surf, and definitely at the jetties.

I've also tied them from pink-dyed bucktail, plus natural white.
The bucktail itself goes from white to black, and on a dyed one will be the dye color gradually darkening to black.
but for pink, white stacks from the tail forward, a stack or two of pink, and last some of the darkest hairs from the tail.

The trick with tying hair is always not spinning the hair around the hook. You start the thread as gentle loops, and get them tight before you release your pinch on the hair stack. Two wraps, clip the excess in front of your wrap, another wrap or two, tie in the next stack. You can also add a spot of super glue before you move forward. Tying flies, you use the weight of the spool in the bobbin to keep the thread tight, while you use your hands for other things.

If I didn't mention it before, always kevlar thread on salt flies, and generally on hair flies.



here are some weighted bucktail flies with step-by-step photos - just popped up in my google search
https://flymenfishingcompany.com/pages/fly-tying-fishing-tutorials-bucktail-baitfish

[bulldog1935]

if you ever decide to try fly tying, don't buy a kit - buy the basic tools and materials for just one fly you want to tie, then add more as you want to do more.
best place to buy fly-tying tools and materials online -
http://hookhack.com/

you can also find fly-tying tutorial videos on youtube ad nauseum

[Donnie]

LOL , guys I have an FYI for anyone as stupid as I was regarding this very old fly rod i have here- Its been on my wall for 51 years, it belonged to a friends dad, and they moved away, so anyway. I ordered some 'redfish' tip leaders - looked very nice, I attached it to the 51 year old , at least, fly line and on my trip to the island monday evening, I whipped it out. Trying to remember how to cast I thought was going to be the problem - it was not - trying to get that line to have any flex in it at all - was nuts. As I pulled line out - and attempted to cast, it lay around me in tight coils. I finally got enough out (i was standing on the first sand bar - at low tide monday evening) - with a heck of a throw, the I got the fly , i think yall called it the clouser, about 10 yards out, which wasnt too bad for how awful and stiff the fly line was. The great news, is as i tried to retrieve the line, - something hit that fly - I saw the line straighten out and I felt a pop , and it let go - so much slack line (slack coils) . So the bad news, I really do have to replace this 51 year old fly line, the good news is , I am 1 for 1 on casts versus strikes in my new sport of surf fly fishing !
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Don - permanent prescription of salt water therapy.

[bulldog1935]

you go guy - rip their lips

you'll discover newer lines have a lot less memory, so coiling won't be such a problem.
Maybe time to get that intermediate sinker.

I just picked up an old c. 1960 Harnell 8' glass rod for close-fishing from a kayak. The rod loves my 7-wt intermediate sinking line (slime line).
It also looks natural with this Valentine planetary multiplier (example from the 80s, and based on the 1906 Eton Sun patent, but still made by two brothers in a MA aerospace fab shop).
Check out the old Harnell - it's even got mylar (and higher-grade cork than you can find today).

[Donnie]

That intermediate sinking fly line, could you give me a reference , say on amazon as to what you would suggest.

Thanks
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Don - permanent prescription of salt water therapy.

[bulldog1935]

Airflo Beach Intermediate would be my first choice.
Fish USA has it in 5-, 6-, and 7-wt
https://www.fishusa.com/product/Airflo-Beach-Full-Clear-Intermediate-Fly-Line
Not going to find a discount on this line.

Madison River Fishing Company has always been a great place to shop closeout fly lines.
Here's a 7-wt.
https://www.mrfc.com/scientific-anglers-sonar-hover-fly-line.html
note this line isn't clear

While fly line prices have gone crazy, consider one of my slime lines still fishing is a Scientific Angler's Mastery I bought in 1984.
If you don't mind paying the top dollar, get the airflo.

If you want a good floating line at realistic price, Cortland 333 is kind of the old reliable
https://www.tridentflyfishing.com/cortland-classic-333-saltwater-floating-fly-line.html

You need to fish longer leaders with a floating line, and can get by with 5-6' leader with a sinking line.

ps - found a little bit better deal from Cortland factory store on their slime line - in whatever line weight you need.
https://www.cortlandline.com/collections/saltwater-fly-line/products/big-game-intermediate


In the glass days 7-1/2' rods were usually 6-wt, and longer rods were 7-wt
A few salt-specific rods might be 8 or 9, but would probably cast better with the lighter 8 in a modern line.
your rod being for salmon, the 8-wt might be best