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ltorna1 · Full Grown Flour Bluffian Joined: 17 Apr 2009 Posts: 3240

Five drivers to pay over $150,000 for damage to sensitive natural park resources, from prohibited Off Road Driving, within Padre Island National Seashore.

http://www.kristv.com/news/drivers-fined-more-than-150-000-for-trek-across-national-seashore/

Took 3 years for this to happen but glad it did.
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Towboat Trash · Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:35 am Post subject: Re: A little justice on PINS

Oil Field Trash II · Full Grown Flour Bluffian Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 1560

how do 3" deep ruts ruin a tidal flat and how do they "restore" them? In addition, how is an economic value assigned to a tidal flat?

seems excessive... fine them for idiotic behavior, but these fines for "ruining" something that ebbs and flows like a tidal area seems a bit too much.

INFORRED · Finger Mullet Joined: 15 May 2014 Posts: 17

Its about time they started holding people responsable. If only they could do the same for all the litter.

SilverTundra4X4 · Horse Mullet Joined: 13 Nov 2012 Posts: 134

is the pass to yarbrough considered prohibited?

deputydawg · Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:42 am Post subject:

Rocketfish · Finger Mullet Joined: 03 Dec 2010 Posts: 34

OFT II, The algal mats are extremely sensitive ecosystems that provide major feeding habitat for thousands of migratory shorebirds. The gradient on these flats may be as little as 1/2" elevation change per mile, and the only source of flooding that the little benthic invertebrates (bird food) have is from wind driven tides. These areas don't flood from regular tidal movement, and a 3 inch deep rut will cause the wind driven water to pool, thereby starving a large area that would have otherwise been inundated. When the flats are inundated, a super fine layer of sediment is deposited, but not enough to fill ruts of that depth in 20, 30, even 50 years. The worms, crabs, and other little critters that call the flats home require a pretty narrow range of soil compaction, so just grading the flats would ultimately compact the soil too much to allow colonization by algae mats and the invertebrates. Restoration work is a near impossibility. I don't have access to much of the historic aerial imagery, but if you can find it, some of the photos from the 70s show tire tracks that are still visible via modern satellite imagery. It's pretty incredible.
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fishinglady · Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:58 am Post subject:

Good...I'm glad the rules are being enforced.
Now if someone would only enforce the "no driving in the dunes" rule in the SBH area, particularly in the Bowl. I was there on the beach this past Friday fishing with a friend [only caught one whiting]. In two hours, I saw THREE different vehicles running up into the dunes there at the bowl....and there were already plenty of tire tracks running up and thru the dunes there.

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Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm · Full Grown Flour Bluffian Joined: 01 May 2008 Posts: 3973

Chef Lefty · Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:40 am Post subject:

Someone slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night. Very Happy

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ltorna1 · Full Grown Flour Bluffian Joined: 17 Apr 2009 Posts: 3240

For me Becky, I personally draw the line at major nearly irreparable HABITAT DESTRUCTION versus causing the birds to have to move for a few minutes. I think most reasonable people can agree there is a difference.

Reminiscent of the seagrass issue. Ripping prop scars versus simply running a flat at high speeds. One impacts a habitat, one is just scaring fish.
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cuzn dave · Flour Bluffian in training Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 465

when you flush birds off the beach when driving south (which already includes piping plovers, threatened) it causes them stress....if there are enough T&E species out there, and someone does a study that vehicular traffic is a reason for the birds decline, what happens then? I'll tell you, that will mean no more driving ANYWHERE on PINS..... Shocked

This has already happened in several areas on the east coast.
Its not a maybe- it will happen.
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INFORRED · Finger Mullet Joined: 15 May 2014 Posts: 17

The national sea shore has a designated driving area that most people are familiar with. You dont drive in the dunes. Just like There is a road way on our regular beaches. People should have a little more respect for nature. I agree if you see something that isn't right then call law enforcement. The less people get involved the more things like this will happen because they get away with it and other people let them.

rodandroll · Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 1:41 pm Post subject:

Personally I think think it's all a drive by the Feds to eventually shut PINS down. But when that happens, guess what, that's when the state of Texas takes it back under the deed limitations that gave it to the Feds.
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