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grasscutter
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 2:38 pm    Post subject: Going without live bait...wish me luck Reply with quote

Went through the box and rehooked some mirrorlures, spooks, and spoons plus added some Norton and gambler plastics I had laying around. Taking the cast net and bucket just in case the withdrawals get too severe Very Happy Wish me luck.
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You sound like me!Ive built quite the arsenal of Artie's trying to ween myself from live bait.Good luck to you Sir! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't use any live bait.....good luck.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If that's the case (weening from bait), get some paddle tail type swimbaits!!!!
There are two things that I REALLY LIKE about them: Fish of all species wear them out, and they can be rigged weedless with the correct hooks, weighted or unweighted. Weedless rigging would very often be a day saver down there!

Then again, maybe some of the plastics you mentioned already fit that MO?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:17 am    Post subject: update Reply with quote

Picked up a 19 63/64 red and a 19" trout on a bone-colored spook about daylight on top of the reef. Had the place to myself for about 20 minutes and planned to work down the reef but a few boats began to show up and anchor. Moved out and deeper with soft plastics in red and white paddle tail, dark blue and chartreuse bull minnow and dark green and chartreuse. No takers. Switched back to a chartreuse spook jr. and had several slaps plus one gull attack but no takers. Trout went on ice and headed to the house. Hamptons had one truck in the lot at daylight...lot was full at 10 when I left.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing works all the time of course. It's been freaking gray and raining off and on since Monday up here and I had to get out of the damn house yesterday. Took the pooch and a rod out to the lake fairly early to check out what looked to be a good topwater conditions. It was SLOOOOOOOOOW, but I managed 5 nice bass on one bone colored topwater: http://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/h2o-xpress-model-tws-topwater-bait/pid-22353?color=American+Shad&N=4294963713+97009336

I tried a swim bait for a darn good while too, and they are usually good out there. Had only one hit and lost that fish before I could get him over the dock railing!

You guys who like to fish topwaters, give that Academy bait a try. It has a slight concave in the nose AND walks the dog with the best of them, darn good bait and the price is right! Cool Not trying to hijack here, just adding to the conversation.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to find a good go to bait. I had one once called the Rebel humpback floater. It was a freshwater bait and deadly on white bass during the spring run in the flooded timber of East Texas. Just a little obscure floater/diver that was discontinued and hard to find. That's what I'd like to find.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Next time take that red by the tail and crack it 3 or 4 times like a bull whip and you could gain a 1/4 to 3/8 of an inch or so. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

grasscutter wrote:
I'd like to find a good go to bait. I had one once called the Rebel humpback floater. It was a freshwater bait and deadly on white bass during the spring run in the flooded timber of East Texas. Just a little obscure floater/diver that was discontinued and hard to find. That's what I'd like to find.


Man, that was a LOOOOONG time ago! Shocked I had a few of those back in the 9th grade......... 44 years ago!!!!! Embarassed

Have you tried the swimbaits using a weighted hook? Dude, fish eat 'em up, but there still has to be a bite happening and fish where you're fishing........ Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

why the thing with not having live bait? Just askin. I know people that fish with live bait and people that fish with plastic.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ironmanstan wrote:
Next time take that red by the tail and crack it 3 or 4 times like a bull whip and you could gain a 1/4 to 3/8 of an inch or so. Very Happy

Ha!
It actually wiped 20 on the rod tape but was so close ,,,. I need to invest in a bonafide measuring device.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

10/4 !!!! Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

landlocked beachbum wrote:
grasscutter wrote:
I'd like to find a good go to bait. I had one once called the Rebel humpback floater. It was a freshwater bait and deadly on white bass during the spring run in the flooded timber of East Texas. Just a little obscure floater/diver that was discontinued and hard to find. That's what I'd like to find.


Man, that was a LOOOOONG time ago! Shocked I had a few of those back in the 9th grade......... 44 years ago!!!!! Embarassed

Have you tried the swimbaits using a weighted hook? Dude, fish eat 'em up, but there still has to be a bite happening and fish where you're fishing........ Rolling Eyes

1970. Good music during that decade. I could use that little floater on largemouths too, and it netted more than one five pounder. Great little bait. But my go to for largemouths was plastic worms and lizards. Strawberry or electric blue for the worms and black for the lizards. Tru-turn brute hooks, always. That's the way I'd like to rig for specks and reds, having confidence in a bait so that when it doesn't pan out, I always know it will. I went on an arti quest about five years ago and unhappy with the results, went back to live. Giving it another shot. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I enjoy both disciplines. Even though the end goal is the same, the process is darn different! For a more relaxing time of it I prefer bait fishing, but castnetting and/or tending a pinfish trap has it's ups and downs. My imagination gets a chance to run wild thinking of what my bait is doing down there and who's in the neighborhood wanting to mug it!!!!!

The topwater thingy is my favorite when that's working at least semi well, but walking the dog can really put a beating on the old wrist! Embarassed
Pitching swimbaits is definitely easier, just chunk and wind. Having said that, the depth and speed of the day must of course be found by listening to what the fish are trying to tell me! To me at least, a jighead and plastic tail of any kind is the hardest to stick with just because it's so damn slow! Rolling Eyes Even though I know they can be really productive at times (DOA Shrimp), forcing myself to endure the tedium takes a lot of willpower..........

On that old Humpback rebel: one of the hardest pulling fish I ever hooked (In freshwater) as a kid was on one of those, in silver/black. I'll never know what it was because it was only on for a maybe 5-10 seconds and then gone!Shocked They were cheaply made baits with really dull hooks, looking back on the whole thing. I seem to recall that the diving lips broke off easier than any other bait that I've ever fished with, period.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

landlocked beachbum wrote:
grasscutter wrote:
I'd like to find a good go to bait. I had one once called the Rebel humpback floater. It was a freshwater bait and deadly on white bass during the spring run in the flooded timber of East Texas. Just a little obscure floater/diver that was discontinued and hard to find. That's what I'd like to find.


Man, that was a LOOOOONG time ago! Shocked I had a few of those back in the 9th grade......... 44 years ago!!!!! Embarassed

Have you tried the swimbaits using a weighted hook? Dude, fish eat 'em up, but there still has to be a bite happening and fish where you're fishing........ Rolling Eyes


They still make them in the same place the always have, Bill Norman Lures in Greenwood Arkansas. They sold to PRADCO after Bill passed away around 2002. I heard a story that his 5" rebel stick baits with silver sides and blue or black back work well for the rolling silvers when they are here. Just change out the hooks they still use Eagle Claw and they rust fast.
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