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GinMan
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:03 am    Post subject: Possessions are usually diminished by possession Reply with quote

The man who pets a lion may tame it, but the man (City Council) who coddles the body makes it ravenous.
It was Schexnailder's ravenous appetite that caused this demise. I think that most people would have voted in favor to close just the beach behind the seawall. Realistically, the seawall area is crowded with enough people in the summer that a sensible person would not feel comfortable driving that stretch of beach. Schexnailder's failure of this proposal happened when he thought it would be easy enough to take the lion's share and go for broke......The South Packery Jetties; rightfully so, is still the property of the people of Texas again...........for now..........
Now that Prop 2 has passed, I would personally be in favor of closing the beach to vehicular traffic behind the current seawall/walkway.
I just hope that the good stewards of the beach going community can come to the realization that being allowed to drive behind that seawall is not what everyone was trying to accomplish, and that during the busy tourist season it really doesn't make sense to "Make our presence Known" by parking amongst the pedestrian crowds.

Schexnailder's biggest mistake was not being happy with "Just" the seawall.......The tighter you squeeze, the less you have......

I personally was against Prop 1, and for Prop 2. , and I will not be driving behind the seawall during the tourist season. Common sense folks.......that’s what good stewardship is all about.
Don't forget to show that even the people of the "Redneck Riviera" can show a little class........


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see that too as it gets much too crowded especially at the dead end of the jetty. I just didn't think they would stop at that 4200 feet and two months later after Mark Scott and Chesney told me at a town hall meeting that no this is not a nose under the tent deal and they would not be asking for more they asked for 3000 more.
There are a lot of reasons why this failed. I think if they just would have given the promised parking and the bathhouse at the jetty they would have had the pedestrian only beach.
I tend to agree Ginman and I am pretty sure you and I will be seeing rotten fruit and tomato responses hurled our way after these remarks Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree he was trying to get something for nothing. Maybe he will sell his property and go back to austin and leave us alone. Very Happy But you must really congradulate libby and her editorial. She really got the pot stired up. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why did the beach have to be closed 24 -7 365 days of the year?

I original felt that you could shut it down to vehicles from June 1 to August 31st (during the height of the tourist and weed season) and then open it back up during the other nine months.

It does not make any sense to have a beach closed during the off season. I have fished that area in the fall and winter and there is hardly a soul around, especially after dark.

Now I feel otherwise, keep it open 24 - 7, 365 days of the year.

And in closing I would like to pour a tall glass of shut the hell up for all of the whiners who complain about how Corpus is not like some where else. Just pack up and leave, so someone who likes Corpus can take your job and buy your house.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that the common sense and logic need to be exercised when the next development is proposed. The jetties are a major draw for the area fishing community because they attract fish. Therefore the local community will need access to the area around the jetties.
If there is ever an area that needs to have vehicles banned it should be as small an area as possible with good access to both sides or a "bypass" around the area. If a vehicle ban is not absolutely needed(I think the key is needed not wanted), then some method to control traffic such as bollards should be used.
When I read in the paper this morning that Scheck and Intrawest had pulled out of the proposed development it reminded me of a kid that does get his way and responds with "Well then I'll just take my ball and go home!" Isn't this the second development he has abandoned because the city did not give him everything he wanted? I said it in my letter to the editor (that never got printed) and I still believe that a 1.5 BILLION dollar resort should have enough merit that it would not fail due to vehicle traffic on the beach.
Of course I didn't believe when the original TIF was passed that we would ever have access to the jetties. I thought it was just another lie to get people to vote for it. So congradulations and thanks to everyone who has saved us from the greed and lies of our city government. Maybe next year we can get some council members that will work for the local people.
One final thing: I don't fish the beach, usually I stay in Nueces bay. If I decide to try out the jetties, do I need a parking permit or any other permit? I keep reading good reports from Packery so I might want to try it out some time.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My two cent... One of the big reasons I live in Corpus is the open beaches. I can't understand why we have to build condo's and resorts everywhere. Now that the city council has heard from the voters, they should change there direction and finish the packery as planned in the TIF. You lost, get over it... "We don't need no damn closed beaches". Iterwest go somewhere else and kill a beach for profit. We don't need you. Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad As I said my two cent. Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone seen plans or plats for that supposedly 1.5 billion dollar resort? Maybe Schnexy was just leading you on just a little bit.... It was probably 1.5 million not 1.5 billion. Well, the 1.5 million was correct, while he put the rest ( of the 1.5 billion ) in his and his cronies ( city council ) pockets. Thank GOD we will never know... LONGHORN
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gee, it hasn't even been a week since the people of Corpus won a major war and there is already talk about giving what was won back. DON'T CLOSE IN FRONT OF THE SEAWALL TO TRAFFIC ANY TIME. If we closed every section of beach because of crowds there wouldn't be any crowds. How else would they get there but by DRIVING ON THE BEACH!!!. Then how would you get to the south jetty? I don't know if there is another road between the wall and the jetty but I don't think schexscammer will let you drive through his land. It amazes me how quick some people in this country forget and forgive someone who trys to screw them, if schexscammer would have won do you think he would be saying maybe we should open the beach to driving during certian times of the year? No, he would be now trying to find a way to keep us off the jetty.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a rd just north of the seawall to enter from. Think they have the traffic one-way (south) in front of the seawall.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mastergunner wrote:
Gee, it hasn't even been a week since the people of Corpus won a major war and there is already talk about giving what was won back. DON'T CLOSE IN FRONT OF THE SEAWALL TO TRAFFIC ANY TIME. If we closed every section of beach because of crowds there wouldn't be any crowds. How else would they get there but by DRIVING ON THE BEACH!!!. Then how would you get to the south jetty? I don't know if there is another road between the wall and the jetty but I don't think schexscammer will let you drive through his land. It amazes me how quick some people in this country forget and forgive someone who trys to screw them, if schexscammer would have won do you think he would be saying maybe we should open the beach to driving during certian times of the year? No, he would be now trying to find a way to keep us off the jetty.


There is a road, as Ginman's photo show's.

However, I dont think closing the beach in front of the wall solves the problem, because it only creates another. This is the only area where I would agree to bollards and one way traffic, just to keep things nice and safe.

I think closing the beach at all to traffic is wrong. Even if temporary.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:08 am    Post subject: Let it rest!!! Reply with quote

No beach closure.....

"When your tires get really stuck in the sand, the more you accelerate, the more your tires dig and worsen the problem."

I really think those who were in favor of closing the beach will not attempt to bring another straight forward fight. In fact, they will attempt to find other ways of accomplishing their goals. Already, I see wolves in sheep's clothing. Those who worked hard at keeping the beaches open and those that agreed and voted in favor of the same should keep their eyes and ears open for the predators lurking about and waiting for a chance to devide the unity of the voters who supported the open beach.

NO ROTTON TOMATOES FOR YOU T. I'M JUST BEING CAUTIOUS. IF WE GIVE AN INCH, THEY WILL ASK FOR A MILE.

Why risk it???

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, they will pay a homeless guy to hit someone on the beach, so they can say it is unsafe.

I volunteer Mark Scott for the guy who gets hit.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:42 am    Post subject: possessions Reply with quote

big john!!

you're mean or maybe you have a crystal ball.

comeondown for turkey day and wet a line at "our jetty"
on our beach
where you can drive
where you can park
where your kids can play
where you can camp
HAVE A GREAT TIME
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We'll be there!
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