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omaka
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:05 am    Post subject: Dolphin Massacre Reply with quote

Hey folks,

I found this video at Get Bent website. Some of you may want to view this just to get an idea what goes on in Japan. Be warned, it's graphic and disturbing... check it out at http://www.glumbert.com/media/dolphin

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sick bastages, that will kill and eat anything and have no feelings, or respect Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just as bad as clubing those little white seals.im not a tree hugger but theres gonna be a day when i gotta meet my maker ,i get all hot and sweaty just thinkin about it.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GEE - I thought you were referring to what the GB Packers did to the Miami Dolphins a couple weeks ago!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, it's a cruel world our there. I spent many years overseas and that example is very small part of what really goes on, "Even to humans"... I thank God every day I live here. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is pretty graphic, but probably no worse than what goes on in the slaughter houses over here. I'm sure they could find a more humane way of killing them though. At least it looks like the animals were killed for a good reason....food.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A holes. They alreayd rape the worlds oceans anyway, killing what they please illegally. Why do they need to do that sh8t? Dolphins, unlike fish, are mammal, highly intelligent, and can feel pain. Cutting open an animal to let it bleed to death like that video shows just enrages me.

Japan would have you think they are a sophisticated society, but they are not. Not in the least bit.

None of the Asian countries have the least respect for nature, as a whole. They take, and take from the environemnt, and only give back massive amounts of pollution.

They agree to UN agrrements to be more environmentally conscienous to save face, instead of just saying "We pollute and dont give a sh8t"

Look at the recent reports on the huge growing dead zones around Japan, China, and India. They have over polluted and over fished to the point that very few fish live in their waters year round anymore. Most are only passing through during migration seasons.

they Japanese lust for fish and disrespect for the waste generated in gathering it has led the average tuna caught in the Meditteranean Sea to shrink from well over 200 lbs to under 10lbs in size, and the numbers of tuna those areas are seriously threatened.

The Asian community does not have any resepct for animals that feel and have intelligence, even the human race. Look how they treat lower "caste" members there. Look how they treat dogs. Dogs are bleed to death by cutting off their feet, so as to not damage their fur. The same with cats.

So I am not surprised by this video. It just reminds me how disappointed and angry I am with cultures that do not evolve, such as theirs, to understand why that is wrong. Cultures that represent themselves to the world as sophisticated and educated, yet still behave barbic in their very nature.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big John wrote:
A holes. They alreayd rape the worlds oceans anyway, killing what they please illegally. Why do they need to do that sh8t? Dolphins, unlike fish, are mammal, highly intelligent, and can feel pain. Cutting open an animal to let it bleed to death like that video shows just enrages me.

Japan would have you think they are a sophisticated society, but they are not. Not in the least bit.

None of the Asian countries have the least respect for nature, as a whole. They take, and take from the environemnt, and only give back massive amounts of pollution.

They agree to UN agrrements to be more environmentally conscienous to save face, instead of just saying "We pollute and dont give a sh8t"

Look at the recent reports on the huge growing dead zones around Japan, China, and India. They have over polluted and over fished to the point that very few fish live in their waters year round anymore. Most are only passing through during migration seasons.

they Japanese lust for fish and disrespect for the waste generated in gathering it has led the average tuna caught in the Meditteranean Sea to shrink from well over 200 lbs to under 10lbs in size, and the numbers of tuna those areas are seriously threatened.

The Asian community does not have any resepct for animals that feel and have intelligence, even the human race. Look how they treat lower "caste" members there. Look how they treat dogs. Dogs are bleed to death by cutting off their feet, so as to not damage their fur. The same with cats.

So I am not surprised by this video. It just reminds me how disappointed and angry I am with cultures that do not evolve, such as theirs, to understand why that is wrong. Cultures that represent themselves to the world as sophisticated and educated, yet still behave barbic in their very nature.


I Agree with you 100%
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just think, all you Toyota drivers support that country. No matter where you think the vehical was built your money still winds up in Japan!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bluffer wrote:
Just think, all you Toyota drivers support that country. No matter where you think the vehical was built your money still winds up in Japan!!!


I think that's a little harsh. I doubt seriously that Toyota has anything to do with that, no more than the Mercedes I drive everyday has to do with WW2.
On a side note
I was trolling about 60 miles out one day, and noticed a bunch of Dolphin hamming it up, I asked my buddy what the heck we were supposed to do if one of them got hooked? We never decided. I thought it best to just cut the line immediately, he said that they would NEVER hit a lure, he was right that day.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:58 pm    Post subject: Dolphins Reply with quote

I always thought that dolphins and porpoises were protected worldwide. Just think, when Japan oceans run out of fish, mammals, etc. they'll come to U.S waters and start taking our resource. I hope we detain them bastages, lock them up and throw away the keys.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big John wrote:
A holes. They alreayd rape the worlds oceans anyway, killing what they please illegally. Why do they need to do that sh8t? Dolphins, unlike fish, are mammal, highly intelligent, and can feel pain. Cutting open an animal to let it bleed to death like that video shows just enrages me.

Japan would have you think they are a sophisticated society, but they are not. Not in the least bit.

None of the Asian countries have the least respect for nature, as a whole. They take, and take from the environemnt, and only give back massive amounts of pollution.

They agree to UN agrrements to be more environmentally conscienous to save face, instead of just saying "We pollute and dont give a sh8t"

Look at the recent reports on the huge growing dead zones around Japan, China, and India. They have over polluted and over fished to the point that very few fish live in their waters year round anymore. Most are only passing through during migration seasons.

they Japanese lust for fish and disrespect for the waste generated in gathering it has led the average tuna caught in the Meditteranean Sea to shrink from well over 200 lbs to under 10lbs in size, and the numbers of tuna those areas are seriously threatened.

The Asian community does not have any resepct for animals that feel and have intelligence, even the human race. Look how they treat lower "caste" members there. Look how they treat dogs. Dogs are bleed to death by cutting off their feet, so as to not damage their fur. The same with cats.

So I am not surprised by this video. It just reminds me how disappointed and angry I am with cultures that do not evolve, such as theirs, to understand why that is wrong. Cultures that represent themselves to the world as sophisticated and educated, yet still behave barbic in their very nature.


Are you speaking from first hand experience? If you have visted Japan, how long where you there?

Japanese people do not eat dogs. Nor cats.

What they are doing (I don't agree with, very sickening) is no different then what happens here in Good Ol America. Have you seen the way some slaughter houses kill cows and sheep? What about horses? I have seen animals skinned alive all for US consumption. No need to waste money on a bullet or even a bolt to the head.

I have seen "gentle" kill stations for dogs and cats at vetenaries that stick them in an oven (with a clear door so you can watch) and feed it full of carbon monoxide or sometimes other letal inhalents to "sanely" euthanise man's best friend. This sometimes takes a very long time, all while the animal is choking to death, sometimes on it's own vomit. If you can't bear to watch the slow death, you can always know they were suffering and panicing before they died by the paw prints running down the viewing window.

That isn't even the tip of it. You should see some of the things that go on in research facilities right here in America, makes that dolphin video look humane.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

john is right, i spent two yrs homeported out of japan (yokosuka). we steamed all over the south pacific.i never want to go back i saw enough crap from japan to pakistan.GOD I LOVE AMERICA.I wish everyone knew just how good we got it. damn i gotta go to work.yall have a great day.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That video appeared on the TKF website about a month ago and the debate was heated. I think we need to first understand that what they did in that video was legal in japanese waters. That does not make it right. For a long time it was illegal for people of color to interact with whites in the Good ol' US of A. It was the law, but it didn't make it right. Women had no right to vote, legally. Still, it was wrong. Unfortunately, Japanese people do not choose to place the same importance on marine mammals as most other countries in the world. The video is disgusting, disturbing, and inhumane, but before we start to accuse other countries of unethical treatment towards animals, perhaps you should visit an American slaughter house or chicken farm. This same type of treatment is given to the animals we depend on for food. What makes a chicken any less worthy of a humane death than a dolphin? Perhaps when we deal with our own problems first, other countries will be more willing to listen to us.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ironmanstan wrote:
john is right, i spent two yrs homeported out of japan (yokosuka). we steamed all over the south pacific.i never want to go back i saw enough crap from japan to pakistan.GOD I LOVE AMERICA.I wish everyone knew just how good we got it. damn i gotta go to work.yall have a great day.


How much of Japan did you see? Pretty bold statement saying an entire race is one way.

topdog15 wrote:
That video appeared on the TKF website about a month ago and the debate was heated. I think we need to first understand that what they did in that video was legal in japanese waters. That does not make it right. For a long time it was illegal for people of color to interact with whites in the Good ol' US of A. It was the law, but it didn't make it right. Women had no right to vote, legally. Still, it was wrong. Unfortunately, Japanese people do not choose to place the same importance on marine mammals as most other countries in the world. The video is disgusting, disturbing, and inhumane, but before we start to accuse other countries of unethical treatment towards animals, perhaps you should visit an American slaughter house or chicken farm. This same type of treatment is given to the animals we depend on for food. What makes a chicken any less worthy of a humane death than a dolphin? Perhaps when we deal with our own problems first, other countries will be more willing to listen to us.


Very well said. It is just sad that people get all huffy and puffy over other countries, but choose to ignore the same or worse problems here in our own country.
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