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tug · Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:25 pm Post subject: jarvis walker 1 bearing system

Has anybody heard of a one bearing system on a spinning reel...is it good bad ..any idea.....i no some have 5...4 poo poo even 11..its off of ebay..but 1
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robul · Full Grown Flour Bluffian Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 2677

my stella has 15 bearings. Smile

1 bearing may work good for a few weeks I woudlnt expect it to be very smooth though..

Tarzan · Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:42 pm Post subject:

There are plenty of spinning reels with one bearing. The bearing is located on the main shaft. The handle shaft rides on bushings. It is actually a really good design. A spinner does not require as many bearings as a baitcaster because there is really no spool to spin on the cast. One thing to remember when fishing salt water is the more bearings, the more things to go wrong. I had a couple of stradics when I was experimenting with spinners and they were smooth as silk the first few trips to the surf. BUT, they went down hill really quick. Most guys who fish from boats will tell you that the multi-bearing spinners are great and soooo smooth....BUT don't get them splashed in the surf or you have a world of trouble...Just my .02
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frayed · Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:23 pm Post subject:

A stella? Damn, I now have spinning reel envy. LOL.
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hornytoadx3 · Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:47 pm Post subject:

From personal exp. 4 bearings or more. It depends on the brand and bearing material. But one bearing will maybe last you one season. Good luck! I saw the light and only go with PENN Cool

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Tarzan · Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:37 pm Post subject:

I do not see the logic behind the " one bearing system will fail after one season " philosophy. A bushing, usually brass, is the same as a bearing but without the roller balls to corrode. Look at all the old school Abu Garcia and Penn reels from the past. You can not screw up a bushing if you try. When they get gunked up...you pop them out-wipe them down-apply some lube-and pop them back in...peroid. Now granted, you do not have the smoothness and speed of a roller bearing, but this is fishing...not tournament casting. In my opinion, a brass bushing will outlast a stainless steel bearing 10X or more. I use bearings in my reels and clean them regularly (pain in the a$$) but I fish the surf and like to bang a bait out over the bar with as little effort as possible. I guess it really depends on how you fish. If you are throwing lures (say a soft plastic with a 1/8oz. jig head...a multi bearing reel is great). If you are chunking bait in the surf or from a jetty/pier....it really does not matter. Bearings are expensive and very sensitive to salt corrosion. My advise is to learn to tear down your reels and rebuild on a regular basis. Soak the bearings in Zippo lighter fluid and let dry on a paper towel, then put two good drops of oil on them(Abu Garcia Silicote....do not go with that Rocket fuel crap) Fishing the salt is a high maintenance sport my friend. Trust me, I'm on my 8th Toyota 4X4 since 1983...There just isn't a cure for the salt.....
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Tarzan · Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:49 pm Post subject:

hornytoadx3 · Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:35 am Post subject:

I agree about maintaining your reels. When I first got into surf fishing more than a few years ago I would buy the cheapy academy surf rod/reel combos usually one bearing and man one dunk and they were done for. True one bearing is not as smooth. And I do agree about casting with one bearing into the surf just chunking them. But you have to reel em back in sometime especially with a fish on. Congrats on the Revo Tarzan damn good reel. I love Abu bait casters have a few myself. I also have a few Penn SSM's and my pride and joy Slammers. The Slammers are smooth as hell,6 bearings all together. Of course you can fish with one bearing but with all the ones I've had they just did'nt last as long. I put my rigs through hell!
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tug · Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:42 am Post subject:

Thanks for the info....i planned on using it in the surf...but lost the bid...im glad
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Tarzan · Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:31 am Post subject:

Check out the pawn shops. Over the years I have found some incredible deals at the EZ pawn at Weber & Holly here in CC. I just found a 9' Penn Pursuit surf rod with a Penn 105C spinner in excellent condition for $29.00. I bought it. The thing works like a champ, and for $29.00, if it lasts a season and catches fish...well I got my money's worth. The great thing about it is this. If I don't like it, I can take it back and pawn it for $30.00...Bacically a free rod & reel. I won't do that though. It will be a great bait soaker for the first gut or a good loaner rod Razz

P.S. I once found and bought a 11' St. Croix Avid surf rod( retail $300.00) with a Shimano Thunnus 16000 reel (retail $249.00) in like new condition for ...$100.00 Really.

I just found a Penn 16/0 reel on a 8' Harrington custom wrapped rod for $350.00. Well over a $1000.00 value. I didn't buy that but should have and re-sold it for a nice profit...

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jimk · Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:52 pm Post subject:

I think most of the reel manufacturers are doing a good job in sealing their spinning reels. It doesn't hurt, though, to wax the body to seal it from salt water intrusion. Car wax is fine. If your reel has a bearing on the bail where the line comes across..that is a weak point. I have an old Daiwa Regal Z that is my go to reel for salt...every evening I remove only that bearing, clean it using lighter fluid, and oil it for the next day's use. If I don't, it'll start squealing and you can feel the loss of smoothness. Many reels have a bushing at that point which requires very little maintenance. I just started using waterproof grease on that bearing to see if it'll hold up for more than a day.

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I have been using a Shimano Stradic for 3 years, never have taken it apart. Just applied a little reel oil to it when it has gotten dunked. Still works like a champ.

snakecan2 · Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:22 pm Post subject:

i actually bought 2 jarvis walker spinners about 4-6 years ago.. they are suppose to be penn spin offs actually made by penn..
they are an inexpensive reel.. work ok.. but never really used them much.. more as back ups
if it takes a drink, clean it up.. for what you will probably pay for it.. if it doesnt clean up and last a season or 2 you got your moneys worth..
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CC Bug Man · Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:14 am Post subject: 1 bearing spinning reels

The secret to a long life for your reels is maintenance! Learn to do it yourself or take it to a pro. In Corpus, Roys Bait & Tackle does a lot of work for people with a lot of money and another rig to use when you are waiting to get it back. They do good work.

The Reel Shop on Tuloso road (last house on the Leopard end) is a great choice if you are a little short of money or in a hurry. Mr Chaney does good work and he also builds top quality rods that he sells for much less than the average market price. I looked at a top quality bait caster that he only wanted $180.00 for. I would have it if I had the money. Notice I didn't say "if I could afford it". I have a lot of fishing gear that I "can't afford".

Now is the time for your maintenance.. Don't wait till spring and expect a turbo return. They get busy.

If you really use $20 reels, just go and get another one.

Wife (Queenfisher) still has an old Daiwa one bearing reel that she still uses (catfishing) some, but it is a little rough after 5 years. It is a $20.00 dollar reel with one carbon steel bearing at the front of the shaft. Nothing in these reels is very rust or corrosion resistant because of the price point.

This cheap reel has been underwater 3 times - actually being retrieved by the floating popping cork once. I tore it down, serviced it, and it keeps on ticking. Learn to do your own work. Google Alan Tani for tutorials.

One bearing reels are spinners and the front carbon steel bearing is a problem to access for maintenance, but you must remove the spool to get to it. Total dunk means a complete rebuild. And maybe replace that front bearing with a stainless bearing while you are at it. (I havent yet).

Other problems areas already mentioned include: drag washers, line roller, (don't forget bail hinge points), screws, and handle. Graphite frame and spools are not the best for big fish, but they are the poor man's solution to longevity.

So, a cheap, 1 bearing, graphite reel can give you good value if you take care of it. They are not the most pleasing equipment to use when you throw lures all day and you will want to upgrade when you get there.

If you don't clean your stuff properly, or you throw it all in the bed of your truck for long periods of time, maybe a 20-30 dollar combo will not only work for a while - it may be the best buy for you.

Bill
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