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what happen to the sawfish
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Capt Mike Singleterry
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We did catch and jump alot of tarpon durning the daylight hours but it seems to me there were alot more caught and jumped at night. I can remember some nights people having as many as 50 + tarpon hooked but not near that many landed.
Back then there were alot of 100 to 150lb fish. We really kinda of took them for granted at the time.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

damn well hopefully with the tp&w and the cca and smart fisherman working together maybe the fishing will go back up to what it use to be
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:56 pm    Post subject: Sharkathon Reply with quote

There will be several guest speakers at the Sharkathon Awards Ceremony on Sunday, September 27th at Balli Park. One of the guest speakers will be Tonya Wiley, TPWD Coastal Fisheries. She will be speaking about Sawfish and Sawfish research. Tonya was formerly with the Mote Marine Lab in Florida where she studied sawfish.

Art Morris, TPWD Coastal Fisheries, will be speaking on the Texas Tarpon Observation Network.

Dr. Greg Stunz, TAMUCC, will be speaking about several local shark tagging studies.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We see then here every so often. Still, it's kind of a not-so-frequent occurence.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Capt Mike Singleterry wrote:
I don't know if the pictures are still up but Howards Bar-B-Q downtown
had alot of good pictures up some years back. Alot of the pic's were of Bob Hall and the tarpon and sharks that were caught there. If your really interested.
I have a few myself and one day might post them...right now I don't have a scanner.

Mike


Capt. Come visit the mainland sometime...LOL. Actually I would not visit as often, but not talented enough to fish for a livin, so gotta have a regular day job in that general direction. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy To confirm, the pictures at Howard's are still up and represent great fishing history of our area.

BTW, Howard's...one of the remaining places you can purchase a quarter pound of beef, then load up on endless sides, no charge...go visit em.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that there is a correlation between the damming of the rivers and the decline in sawfish and tarpon.

When did they build the dam at Mathis?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bud wrote:
I believe that there is a correlation between the damming of the rivers and the decline in sawfish and tarpon.

When did they build the dam at Mathis?


Bud from what I have read the first dam was built in 1929 and washed out sometime that same year...the secound dam was built in 1935. I don't know if there is any correlation betweening the damming or not but as we have learned over the years it sure didn't help.
From what I have heard and seen since the '60s (about the tarpon) is that they were being netted along the Mexico coast before they could travel up to the Texas coast. From what I understand the tarpon were used for fertlizer. There is something about this written in the Fishing Yesterdays Gulf Coast by Barney Farley.
As far as the sawfish I can remember alot of sawfish in this area and around the Rio Grande before the Gulf shrimping hay-days. There again
as the Rio Grande stopped flowing the sawfish disappeared.

I'm sure someone has it all figured out...I just know that I was very fortunate to have had the chance to be here when it was still old school.

Mike
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Big John
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They still arre being used as fertilizer. There is a group that uses satellite tags (GPS) to track the big ones, and they are tracking them, to see if the population migrates all the way around t he guld and are the same fish being ground into fertilizer.

http://www.tarbone.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=28:protection-for-the-future&catid=6:membership-a-donations&Itemid=39
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

since tarpon movements were mentioned I thought I'd include this stuff.
http://site.tarpontomorrow.com/Research_Results.php
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Capt Mike Singleterry
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey here is a thought...why don't some of these special/single interst groups buy up a bunch of fertlizer with all that money they collect and send it to Mexico & So. America in exchange for the people to stop killing the tarpon for fertlizer.

Or this is even dumber...why doesn't the Federal Government just give the
countries fertlizer to stop killing the tarpon...hell we give away everything else.


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