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fishmicki · Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:59 pm Post subject:

this is very thorough....I look forward to hearing more about this. We are afraid to venture to PINS
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Big John · Full Grown Flour Bluffian Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 2647

We went to PINS both Friday and Saturday last weekend, the 3rd and 4th. On the way in t he gate on Friday, everything seemed as normal. In the parking lot at the visitor center, they pulled up behind a parked car, with a family inside. The passengers seemed to be motioning that they pulled in at some angle, and the rangers were pointing as if they should have driven in the lanes in the parking lot, and driving across the middle of the of the vast empty parking lot was wrong. Tiffany commented, under her breath but louder than she thought, "Already harassing people." To which all the rangers looked over at us, and we hurried back into the durango to head on down the beach.

On the beach Friday, rangers everywhere. Saw two different cars pulled over within 100 yards of where we were parked during the day. Nice trucks they are driving now.

On the way out the gate, there was a long line of traffic to exit. They had 3 trucks and an SUV all with lights flashing, and about 7 or 8 rangers with one single pickup pulled over, a very tired looking dude sitting on the tailgate, all his stuff on the side of t he road, and a PO'd looking woman in the truck. One of t he rangers was talking to him, and the other was writing in a citation booklet.

On the 4th, however, we only ever saw the rangers at the gate, and one ranger truck patrolling. Not sight of anyone else but the vendors at the visitor center store.

ehuntingdaddy · Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:47 pm Post subject:

I have a letter I recieved following my inquiry about PINS to Senator Cornyn with a 4 page rebutal in response to his own query about the park problems from a Micheal Snyder.

In it NPS gives the standard response of about the turtle speed limit and commercial fishing guide usage, but no scientific evidence that either is warranted, I'm going to request that info, but not hold my breath. What I found interesting was their response to my third concern, that of over-zealous law enforcement. They claim in the letter to have investigated all complaints, both formal ones and informal ones on fishing websites, and found all complaints to be "unfounded".

Rest assured the problems at PINS are on the Washington radar, and in my opinion another incident will boil things over. Write letters if you have concerns, there is power in numbers.

YaknBak · Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:27 pm Post subject:

Good stuff TroutSlayer! The parks are for People!!

Bluffer · Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:52 pm Post subject:

Great read, can tell youve done your homework!
Hopefully final outcome of this will result in some major personel changes.
looking good!
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landlocked beachbum · Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:36 pm Post subject:

Big John, maybe the parks service has orders from the white house to write as many citations as possible.................................................... that way at least SOMEONE is raking in the dough!!! Evil or Very Mad

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TeamMorningWood · Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:23 am Post subject:

critter getter · Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:02 am Post subject:

just read all of this letter and love it. don't let up we're all behind you on this. give them what they need a good old fashion a!! whipping.

I just saw one of sanfords HIGH dollar tows as he calls them. it looked like a big green pile of junk. he dam sure not spending that money on nice trucks!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm · Full Grown Flour Bluffian Joined: 01 May 2008 Posts: 3974

good stuff troutslayer, I'm REALLY curious to see IF you get a response, and WHAT it will be.
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seanu21 · Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:34 am Post subject:

WOW, read the whole thing, couldn't believe it, lots of good info in there.

So here is just me thinking out loud (don't get mad at me)

* Since PINS is Federal, do all the issues with Texas Law apply to them or is there a separate law that they follow (unless I missed somewhere in there that these were Federal Law, not Texas Law)

* Has anyone considered the abusive vehicle stop\search rate is higher now because we are finally fighting back and this is the Parks way to get back at us (Squash the rebellion tactics)

* Where are the 106 boat parking spots? At Bird Island or is that referencing the Malaquite Center? I think they are at Bird Island right and when those 106 get full people park on the side instead of going to Visitor Center? (this is just for personal knowledge)

* Has anyone thought to contact the other 6 or so towing companies the Park uses on this rotating list to see what THEY charge for off beach tows? That may help provide leverage if a) they don't charge the same amount for same service or b) Sanford is magically the only one called for the expensive tows(shows favoritism and lies of using the "rotating list".

Anyhow, that's all my brain could handle right now, it's getting hot. Again, just thinking out loud if my questions get taken out of context or don't help any. I'm just curious but behind Troutslayer 100%. Wish I was smarter and could help beyond writing a letter.

Until later
Sean

The Trash Heap · Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:39 pm Post subject:

silvershark06 · Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:11 pm Post subject:

Towing is not that expensive. I had my 22ft ski boat towed 20 miles and it cost me $300. And that was in San Antonio. Sanfords wrecker service is shady to tell you the least. They are in it for themselves and take adnatage of anything they can.
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SaintGunner · Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:48 pm Post subject:

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seanu21 · Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:38 pm Post subject:

troutslayer and Trash Heap - Yes and yes. Both helped. Thanks for clearing that up. Keep up the good fight and let us know if there is any additional ways we can support.

Sean