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slikster111 · Pony Mullet Joined: 04 Jan 2008 Posts: 83 Location: DFW

I just traded a pair of old jet skis for a 1988 Javelin 366. The guy had the title to the boat but not the motor. Can I just title and register the boat and not worry about the motor? Just tell them I bought the hull and am planning on doing an engine swap? Looking forward to expanding my fishing when I am down there.

ironmanstan · Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:56 pm Post subject:

tpw can answer those questions or look it up on their site, under registrations.
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Mad Dog · Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:46 pm Post subject:

Slikster, you are definitely going to have to register and title the engine. A 1988 engine should have been titled upon purchase. Fear not though, as IMS said the TP&W have instructions and forms for getting the title. It may take some effort on your part it is necessary. I have had to go through the process twice now. No fun but the on the TP&W wedsite is a check list of documents you will need when you show up at their office.

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rabbit · Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:04 am Post subject:

The motor does not need to be registered as far as I know. I had to change the registration on my dads boat and put it in my name and there never was any mention of the motor. Registering the motor may be some thing optional that you can do if you want too.
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Mad Dog · Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject:

Here is a link to TP&W FAQs.

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/faq/fishboat/boat/registration_and_titles/#registration

Here is a quote about titling.

Title
Do I need to have a Texas title for my boat?

Effective January 1, 1994, all motorboats and all outboard motors must be titled. Also sailboats 14 feet and over in length must be titled.
All motorized boats, regardless of length;
All sailboats 14 feet in length or longer or any sailboat with an auxiliary engine(s); and
All internal combustion (gasoline/diesel powered) outboard motors must be titled.
Exempted vessels — USCG Documented vessels, all (non-motorized) canoes, kayaks, punts, rowboats, or rubber rafts (regardless of length) when paddled, poled, or oared and sailboats under 14 feet in length when windblown.

Vessels that are currently registered and not titled must be titled when transferred. Sailboats 14 feet and over will be registered and titled as owners become aware of these requirements. Currently owned untitled outboard motors must be titled when transferred.

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slikster111 · Pony Mullet Joined: 04 Jan 2008 Posts: 83 Location: DFW

Darn, Was hoping to be able to just title the boat. I can get the title it is just going to be a hassle in paperwork. The guy I got it from never changed the title. He got it in trade for some HVAC work from a widow lady who is a friend of his.

So I have a trail I can follow but it looks like it will take a little work on my part. I am going to download all of the forms that I could possibly need and see if I can get the lady to sign them. Also get a copy of her power of attorney. It may take a few trips but I have done it before on another jet ski. Usually takes about 4 trips before I finally get everything I need. Unfortunately it takes me taking time off from work.

It is the original motor and was a 1 owner boat from what I was told.

skunked · Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:16 pm Post subject:

I believe that a motor older than the effective date (1994) by parks and wildlife does not have to have the title. TP&W can give the definite answer.

bgcornel

I have a 1989 boat and motor that are both titled. Outboard, both still work fine

rodandroll · Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:54 pm Post subject:

It is just like a car. All of them are supposed to have a title, but if you have a car that does not have a title and you don't intend on using it - why would you title it?? You wouldn't - it would be a waste of money.

What's the penalty if you let the car sit in your back yard and don't title it - NOTHING!!

It is exactly the same for the boat motor. If you are not going to use the motor then there is absolutely no reason to title it. What is TPWL going to do about it - NOTHING!!

If you are going to swap or sell it, then someone at some point is going to want a title in order to use it. in that case you are going to have to title it, so that you can transfer the title to the new owner.

There is also a lost title process whereby you can order a duplicate of the original if it was originally titled which it should have been.

robul · Full Grown Flour Bluffian Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 2677

if you buy a motor or boat and do not title it but hold onto it a while before you sell it that is called skip trace and yes it is illegal. You need to have the motor and boat titled otherwise if the coast guard and game warden decide they want to check the vin and its not in your name the motor can be siezed.. Its best just to title both and worry about nothing..

Mad Dog · Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:20 pm Post subject:

landlocked beachbum · Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject:

As always, the quickest and most trust worthy way to get all of the CORRECT info is from the proper state agency. Then, you KNOW that your legal and covered on everything. One or two phone calls or better yet an computer search is all it takes. Wink

All of the regs that used to be are of no value. Rolling Eyes

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