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Invasive Beach Swine
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C.A. Golla
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:23 am    Post subject: Invasive Beach Swine Reply with quote

Beach Swine are a non indigenous species that adversely inhabit small sections of the beach. Their gathering and colonizing annually occurs in the fall and normally coincide with the date of a particular beach fishing tournament that wasn’t permitted last year or this year.

Here are the signs of one area they inhabited last weekend.




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jwhpopeye
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW, thats horrible. Someone has to know who is responsible for that. Looks like it was a large group. Anytime someone sees people with that much stuff while on the beach needs to take pictures of license plates to associate them with the trash and should be prosecuted.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swine is not an adequate description. Fines for this sort of thing should be huge. That, or a crochet needle through the beanbag.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:29 am    Post subject: swine Reply with quote

isn't swine another name for pig. we hunt wild pigs and need a season for domestic pigs.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They came, they trashed, they left. Can only imagine what their mudhole looks like back home.
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danver
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like they used debris to make the form of their shelter, but the trash, tarps, toilet seat and cheap grill are totally unacceptable. I would not complain to the beach police or even bring it up as a concern to the beach warden.... it would eventually affect us more in the long run and might bring harsher rules for those that do take care of and clean the beach. These pigs seem to still believe that clean-up crews exist at PINS and leave some of their trash bagged to ease their conscience.

On a related isssue, the kids in the camp site next to me last weekend gathered wood debris, rotten sea weed, and other stuff they could burn and they made a campfire which looked huge from where I was at. In the morning the guys came over to my campsite, asked if they could look around for more wood debris, specially the large boards with nails and took them for their fire the next night. I was not sure if this was a good thing. They managed to burn a lot of stuff, non-plastic or explosive but left a hundred yard area of beach clean and free of wood boards and debris. When they left, they cleaned up their trash, had space in a utility trailer and asked me if I wanted to part with any of my bagged trash, We talked for a while, I commended them on their efforts to clean up the beach but was wondering what others thought of their fire. I kinda liked the idea, but don't know how it would affect the environment. This fire was manned whhile it lasted. I was fishing most of the night and saw them dancing, drinking and having a good time until about 4 am when I called it a night.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:01 am    Post subject: fire Reply with quote

last i heard, pins was still allowing fires. asked us not to burn the place down. any cleanup at this point is a step in the right direction.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mad Mad Mad Mad

I have a few choice names for the pigs who leave behind trash like that, but if I put them on here Tyler would have to delete my post...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like we used to say in the Army, "Some folks do not get enough home training." When I was fishing Sharkathon there were a bunch of broken beer bottles in the surf at our campsite. These were thrown in the water before we got there so they did not happen during Sharkathon. But the question remains of how crazy people are to throw glass in the surf or in a lake. Do people really want to hurt a child?

I looked long and hard and removed parts of 4 beer bottles. That was a totally irresponsible act.

Thanks for the post and pictures.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clean compared to the jetty swine subspecies. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:05 pm    Post subject: Typical imported garbage Reply with quote

You know on the bottom of every page of the Sharkathon registration packet, there is language that says, clean up your campsite, remove more than you bring, etc.

I believe on the beach swine packets it must say to leave the beach with more trash than you have in your back yard and destroy all of the resources you come in contact with......

There is more than enough trash on the beach without importing more from out of town.

Truly sickening.

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Mansfield Mauler
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can't say for sure it was anyone from the tourney, but what a bunch of pendejos!
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Tarzan
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mansfield Mauler wrote:
you can't say for sure it was anyone from the tourney, but what a bunch of pendejos!


Sorry bud, but it's the same thing EVERY YEAR!!!!!
The abandoned bbq pit, beach chairs, clothes, slaps, ...it's a yearly pattern and always right after surfcats...duh
There are certainly pigs that leave trash year round, but this is a surfcat camp no doubt.
We used to go down PINS the Sunday afternoon after the tourny with empty trucks and do what we called "garage sale'n".. I've seen my share of coleman stoves, beach chairs, lanterns, bbq pits..and their trash..I will at least say that these guys managed to get most of their trash into bags.
Sometimes you couldn't hardly stand to park next to the dumpsters for the smell of all the rotten fish they throw in them. I really don't know exactly what pendejo means but I think it means dumb supple bum. These people leave this stuff because they just don't care about anyting or anybody but themselves. I'm sure that their yards are clean, probably because they throw their trash next door.
I really don't have a problem with building a beach shack out of materials that are already on the beach and leaving it standing for others to use, we used to do that all the time until a ranger told us to tear them back down. I think the rangers just didn't want the illegals to have somewhere to rest in the shade.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it is crap that anyone would leave the beach like that. To stereotype and blame without proof is wrong as well, however.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have fished Surf cats for 24 years and have picked up the camp and then some. There are 400 + people that enter and just because one camp is bad you can not condemn the whole. I have seen posts of camps that the Surf cats have supposedly left on the Thursday before the tournament. I watch locals stuff beer cans in the rocks on the Jetty, Run gill nets in the bay and break every fishing regulation known to TPWL

Those are Americans or resident aliens not Surf cats messing up our environment.

When was the last time you went to Billy's beach clean up??????

I was just at the North Jetty and you would have to have and army with the heart of Billy to clean it up.

There is a major crisis down at Big Shell right now with all the Hurricane debris, so don't sit in front of your PC and piss and moan do something about it and it starts at Billy's clean up.
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