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Prof. Salt
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, that was the idea. I can't wait to be released so I can put it in front of some fish!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BayFly wrote:
I like this shrimp imitation! It looks bullet proof from here.


Thanks! A few guys have noted that if the bendback is bent too much it will really limit the hooking ability of the fly, so as a safety I tied the same pattern on the VMC 6319 hook. The hook forms its own keel and weighs enough to keep the fly sub-surface. Either way I think this will work, and I have been released to paddle and fish next week (Spring break). As a college employee I happen to have next week off, so if the wind will just lay a bit I'll perform some field testing.



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm looking forward to your report on which of the two flies you experience the better hookup with, I'm guessing the first one. Each one should preform a little differently?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like this fly for looking and acting shrimpy
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Prof. Salt
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been working on a quiet shrimp pattern for when the fish are spooky and larger flies tend to scare the fish. Size 6 hook and the shrimp is only about an inch long. It lands softly, swims well and even the spooky fish seem to like it.



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Prof. Salt
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulldog1935 wrote:
I like this fly for looking and acting shrimpy


I have mostly left both of those in favor of the Umpqua bendback. I tie EP fiber and no weight, and in the shallows it swims nicely and remains weedless while still hooking fish well.
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AZ_squid
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendbacks and shrimp look great man! I've been using crab patterns when they are spooky with good success.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulldog1935 wrote:
Those look great, and the action duplicates a swimming crab (which is why I wouldn't use the lead, but I don't like lead - can see that small lead giving the fly the correct motion for a kicking crab)

pretty much all fly art is more for the fly tier than for the fish.
What attracts fish to food is different than what we see - usually motion-mode or in the case of surface flies, the footprint it makes in the surface tension.
The biggest black drum I ever caught - sight fished on about the 6th cast with the drum looking right at me (they don't know you from a bird if you act like a bird) -
was on a stupid-looking epoxy crab.
It was loosely spun and trimmed bucktail, one small hen saddle pointing up, with epoxy globbed on,
and what made it work was it acted like a crab walking sideways on the sand, holding up his big claw in threat.
I refined the crab the next time to end up with this, and it still works (and so does the mylar spoon)


but I prefer casting this, a kicking shrimp and works just fine for any crustacean-food-thingy.


Wow, these are very nice. Shiny hairs are very attractive. The shape is also very nice and beautiful.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:26 am    Post subject: Preety Reply with quote

bulldog1935 wrote:
Those look great, and the action duplicates a swimming crab (which is why I wouldn't use the lead, but I don't like lead - can see that small lead giving and how to get rid of moobs the fly the correct motion for a kicking crab)

pretty much all fly art is more for the fly tier than for the fish.
What attracts fish to food is different than what we see - usually motion-mode or in the case of surface flies, the footprint it makes in the surface tension.
The biggest black drum I ever caught - sight fished on about the 6th cast with the drum looking right at me (they don't know you from a bird if you act like a bird) -
was on a stupid-looking epoxy crab.
It was loosely spun and trimmed bucktail, one small hen saddle pointing up, with epoxy globbed on,
and what made it work was it acted like a crab walking sideways on the sand, holding up his big claw in threat.
I refined the crab the next time to end up with this, and it still works (and so does the mylar spoon)


but I prefer casting this, a kicking shrimp and works just fine for any crustacean-food-thingy.


Wow, they looks so nice. Shiny hairs are attractive and the shape is very nice and beautiful.
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White_libra



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BayFly wrote:
I like this shrimp imitation! Phenq at amazon It looks bullet proof from here.


Yes you are right. It looks like bullet proof!
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