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New Trout Regs For Lower Laguna Madre and Surf 4/1
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Tyler
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:25 am    Post subject: New Trout Regs For Lower Laguna Madre and Surf 4/1 Reply with quote

April 1st a slot limit of 3 trout 17 to 23 inches only from the JFK causeway and Packery Channel south to the Rio Grande including the surf.

https://www.lsonews.com/llm-trout-limit-to-change/?fbclid=IwAR37uz-eyhNXKAhB_RSMnLhTeLhyfRZ5VH3Nb4z3PRY_FWbEshXloYcbODc
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. All of the surf or just the surf south of the JFK causeway?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmmm So how do they know if a trout is caught north of the JFK or south of the JFK?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correct, no way to know if they were caught in Baffin or the Boat Hole.

I'm afraid that they may not reverse back to 15 " min and 5 fish a day.
This will result in floating dead fish from culling.

They should have just made more of an educational campaign to just keep what you eat.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am glad they did something. This is got to help. Plus it looks like 23 inch and greater trout are not able to be kept at all. Those are important breeders. Maybe some of the fishing guides will target black drum more this summer for fish to keep. There is certainly plenty of them...although they did take a hit also.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm more then surprised they would pass some rule they can't police and is not representative of the overall damage to the resource or areas effected.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Local Game Wardens are face-planting into hands wondering how a trout in the box can be identified as north or south...

Maybe it is an effort to educate, and enforcement is secondary...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regardless, we know what the rules are, whether they are enforceable or not doesnt matter. If the people who have studied the damage think this will help , so be it. I am a lowly whiting fisherman anyway.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is fantastic news, glad to see them getting right out and addressing it. I would have skipped the bump up to 17", if folks want to keep three 15 inchers let them. But i could not be happier, plenty of other fish in the sea for meat hauls. Hope they see a quick rebound and a return to prior limits.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Southeast Of Disorder wrote:
I'm afraid that they may not reverse back to 15 " min and 5 fish a day.This will result in floating dead fish from culling.


I read somewhere that this expires in 90 (120?) days and can only be extended once for 60 days.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BlueWaveEd wrote:
Hmmmmm So how do they know if a trout is caught north of the JFK or south of the JFK?


I imagine it would be similar to the 5 trout / 10 trout water body differences from a few years ago. You could catch 3 17-23 south of the causeway and move north of the causeway to catch 2 more 15-25, as long as you don't cross back south of it. (I guess you would have to make sure you launch North of the causeway too)

I'm still not convinced this isn't an April Fools joke. "emergency regulations" starting in 7 days, on a Thursday, April 1st?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Commission will reevaluate in 120 days after they get spring gillnet surveys. They could expand the range of the new regulations or change them if they think they need to from the data. I suspect it will be in place in corpus for at least a year. But who knows. If they leave this in place for a year or two...I think this will have a tremendously positive impact.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The slot they picked has the highest probability of catching traveling schoolie males.
Nursery trout females can be up to 16", and fish over 23" has a very high probability of being female.

Can show plenty of stringers in that slot without a single female. Offhand, can only remember one female I filleted from that slot.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulldog1935 wrote:
The slot they picked has the highest probability of catching traveling schoolie males.
Nursery trout females can be up to 16", and fish over 23" has a very high probability of being female.

Can show plenty of stringers in that slot without a single female. Offhand, can only remember one female I filleted from that slot.


How do you tell the difference between a male and a female speckled trout ? Without killing it ?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't Donnie, until you get them to the fillet table, but 17 to 23 is my normal slot, anyway, and for just this reason.
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