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medic6 Flour Bluffian in training
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:07 am Post subject: Unbelievable |
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Was just sent a message that a Baffin guide was ticketed for having 4 customers on boat and not maintaining 6' distancing. Was reported on Capt Mickey's radio show. _________________ "I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard is not what I mean." |
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Rxfire Member White Shrimper Boot Club
Joined: 16 Apr 2016 Posts: 622 Location: Flour Bluff
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| The guide should have told his customers to refer to him (or her) as "Reverend Captain", and claim they were at a church service. |
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bd0202 Member White Shrimper Boot Club

Joined: 11 May 2017 Posts: 698 Location: SATX
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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6' spacing with 4 passengers + 1 captain = 30 foot boat. Not gonna find one of those in Baffin. I still agree with the premise though - absolutely ridiculous. If you can stay an arm span away from each person, that's right at 6 ft. Pretty sure you can do that on most guide boats. _________________ All things will pass. Have a Blessed day. |
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Rxfire Member White Shrimper Boot Club
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe thinking non-linear. 3 on each side, with an 8 ft beam (width) boat.
Net person needs a 9ft handle on the net! |
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bd0202 Member White Shrimper Boot Club

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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Still, on an 18' boat with 5 people you could position 4 people starboard and port more than arm's length apart, 2 on the bow and 2 on the stern, with the captain in the middle seat and be just fine. Sounds like a bogus case of law abuse to me. _________________ All things will pass. Have a Blessed day. |
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TexasJim Horse Mullet

Joined: 13 Jan 2020 Posts: 184 Location: Rockport
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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What we really need is distance from the big city folks. If you study the Covid map for the US, all the big hotspots have international airports! Hmmmmm.
Most local cases began with travel from elsewhere.
TexasJim _________________ TexasJim
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time" |
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Rxfire Member White Shrimper Boot Club
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| And...unfortunately...who is likely on the guide's boat? |
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bd0202 Member White Shrimper Boot Club

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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| TexasJim wrote: | What we really need is distance from the big city folks. If you study the Covid map for the US, all the big hotspots have international airports! Hmmmmm.
Most local cases began with travel from elsewhere.
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...said all of us that work in airports...but no, in order for the airlines to get their bailout money, they have to keep flying and meeting their lease terms, even when empty! Your government, ladies 'n' gents...  _________________ All things will pass. Have a Blessed day. |
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Savageman Pony Mullet
Joined: 24 Sep 2011 Posts: 90 Location: San Antonio
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| The Captain had specific rules to follow in order to keep his business afloat, and he didn't follow them. I don't see the problem. |
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Central Scrutinizer Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 14 Jul 2009 Posts: 3582 Location: Flour Bluff
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Ticket'ed by whom??? You never said? |
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BayFly Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 02 Sep 2014 Posts: 1728 Location: Austin/Flour Bluff
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Savageman wrote: | | The Captain had specific rules to follow in order to keep his business afloat, and he didn't follow them. I don't see the problem. |
What specific rules might you be talking about? |
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bd0202 Member White Shrimper Boot Club

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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Central Scrutinizer wrote: | | Ticket'ed by whom??? You never said? |
| BayFly wrote: | | What specific rules might you be talking about? |
Agreed. What 'law enforcement' ticketed this Captain exactly, and what were the specific charges? Not keeping arm's length apart? Kleberg isn't a mask-requiring county so it can't be that. I'd like to know the details too because this sounds like BS to me. Either a fake report or something that can be easily fought in court. _________________ All things will pass. Have a Blessed day. |
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bulldog1935 Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 07 Feb 2017 Posts: 1061 Location: downtown Bulverde, Texas
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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:58 am Post subject: |
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I believe an attorney would tell you that, like a speeding ticket, this is a liability rather than a crime.
As in the case of most speeding tickets, there's not a contest that he had 4 people on the boat.
The argument, then, would be about the judgment of the LEO in giving the citation. Did this situation warrant a ticket, and the outcome is the judge's interpretation of the state order being violated, very likely including where did the people in the boat travel from.
(Would the LEO have cited him if it was the guide and just one or two other people on the boat?)
A similar situation was reported on TKF, a guy back from fishing was landing his boat on a private boat ramp, not far from home, and he was cited for violating the Stay at Home order.
So what you're fighting in court is how hungry are the county coffers, and what's your stature with the judge. |
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medic6 Flour Bluffian in training
Joined: 17 Nov 2006 Posts: 309 Location: Floresville
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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:49 am Post subject: |
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I am further researching it to answer your questions. His CBS radio show does not have a podcast. Will update when I have more information. _________________ "I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard is not what I mean." |
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BayFly Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 02 Sep 2014 Posts: 1728 Location: Austin/Flour Bluff
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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:52 am Post subject: |
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| I suggest the officer might be subject to being charged with harassment of a fisherman or fishermen? |
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