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Vern · Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 7:59 pm Post subject: PINS Tent for High wind.

Im sure (maybe) you will remember my recent post about being a dumba$$. However (without re-reading) the post I am sure I left out the fact it took well over an hour and all the tent stakes we had to set up the tent. Couldn't add the rain fly because it would have taken down the tent, so it really added to the interior sand content.

Back in 70's - early 2000's I used to be a backpacker. Mainly more extreme conditions yada yada yada. North Face, Marmot, Mountain Hardware etc.

I have decided that PINS can very well be a hostile environment to setting up a tent due to wind. I bought a 12 man tent so we (in my old age) could be comfortable. The problem is setting it up in high wind. I have just started my research and I find things on both ends of the spctrum. 6k from NF which isnt going to happen now days to some that claim to be instant tents and even good in HIGH wind situations.

I need some imput from my friends here. In a few years or so I will buy a pop up to haul down but right now that is not in the cards.

I need a tent that I can stand up in. Have a queen matress or 2 cots and some storage room for what we bring including the toilet at night (I hate getting old).

WHAT SAY YOU my FRIENDS? Any suggestions.
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OSOFARAWAY · Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 8:19 pm Post subject:

My experience has been, anything other than actual pole frame tints can collapse in the wind on PINS. I've tried the spring steel pop ups,and fiberglass rod tints and have had problems with both. The taller and larger the tint the more wind it catches which in turn requires stronger polls. One thing that helps in high winds is to park your vehicle up wind from your tint. Hope this helps!
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bulldog1935 · Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:01 am Post subject:

we used to camp late Sep on the beach at Cedar Bayou - sleep and catch cut bait in the bayou during the day, and bull reds in the surf at night.
They don't make anything now quite like the aluminum shovel stakes I have from the 80s. But we used an oversize dome tent - one that I can stand up in, and I'm 6'3" - and with the right stakes, wind was never a problem.
I dug this out of the tent beach bag, which also has the brush for getting the sand off the tent floor.

ziacatcher · Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 11:16 am Post subject:

When I used to camp on the beach many many moons ago I would tie my ropes onto sections of two-by-four and bury the two-by-four horizontally about a foot and a half down in the sand. Wet the sand and pack it fown and never pulled out

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bulldog1935 · Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:56 pm Post subject:

If you have a pickup, a truck tent with a vestibule is a good idea.
The bedroom is your truck bed, sets up easy and quick strapping to the truck, and the stand up vestibule sets up separately and attaches to that -
- here, it's a simple 2-pole dome (x2). Add 4 sand stakes and you're set.
Throwing up this example I found online.

Instead of setting up one big tent in the wind, you're setting up two small ones that still meets your spec.

For $2000, they make one that folds out of a roof box on an SUV
https://www.rei.com/product/108368/tepui-tents-autana-sky-3-tent

BayFly · Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:04 pm Post subject:

I'm no camper, due to some time, as a "jarhead", but I suggest you use some pvc for your tent stakes and sink it in the ground at an angle like some of you were describing sinking your pole holders, that is by sucking on the top and causing them to sink. my $.02.

Johninaustin · Full Grown Flour Bluffian Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 1109

I solved the problem by buying a truck bed cap to sleep in. . I hate tents on the ground, but one of thoses truck tents would be fine.

brownivy · Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:58 am Post subject:

I've had good luck with a tent from Kodiak Canvas. It's heavy to haul but easy to set up, even if you are solo. Easily withstood 50-60 mph winds and crazy rain during a freak storm in Magnolia Beach one night. I use it at PINS all the time. 4 years in and no rust or tears. Zippers still working fine too.

http://www.kodiakcanvas.com/tents/
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Wileycoyote · Joined: 29 Sep 2018 Posts: 6 Location: Leander

That kodiakcanvas tent looks like it would do really well down on pins.

HungerBuster · Flour Bluffian in training Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 371

GP Small. Landscape spikes from home depot (12 or 24 inches, but in the deep sand, 24). Tennis balls with a knife slit to put over the stakes (saves ankles). That tent WILL NOT MOVE. Even if the surf comes up into it. 50+ MPH winds will make it shake, but will not take it down. And in the afternoon, roll up the sides and you haver the condo on the beach. We usually bring the medium, but that takes at least three on a windy beach to get up. But that's 16x32. The small would be perfect for what you're talking about. Any military surplus store has them. Go for the canvas rather than the "new" nylon. That thing will last you decades. Spend $150 today on a store bought tent that will be gone after a few trips with headaches (dew in particular dripping on your head at 4 am), or spend $600-ish today and never worry about a darn thing...including mosquitos, wind, lightning, surf, red tide (yup, the canvas keeps the surf spray out), or goons running your "tent" over in the middle of the night....
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Vern · Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:44 pm Post subject:

Thanks folks for all the replies. I think now I have some info I can do research on based on your experiences and mine.
REALLY appreciate it.
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fishaddict · Horse Mullet Joined: 04 Aug 2009 Posts: 150

I bought an Alaskan guide tent from Cabellas. It's 10' X 10' with 1" aluminum poles and 7' high. Suppose to handle a 70 mph wind. I can't use the rain fly because it's for winter. You would burn up inside with it on the beach. So we found some rain fly's that would work for summer. It's tough as nails. We also bough an inside boot that you can pullout and dump all the sand without using a vacuum in the tent.

Marshall
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sandollar_sa · Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:17 pm Post subject:

Have you looked at Army-Navy surplus?
I grew up using those and we still do (or did last time we were there). They're metal (steel?), v shaped, about 15" or so and have the cutouts at the top for rope. I've seen them on eBay more recently. They look pretty bad, but will probably outlive you. We hammered ours down well into the sand with a small sledge and they won't pull out.

(Not so much on eBay, but found these 12 inch ones...)

https://armysurpluswarehouse.com/steel-stake/