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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:17 pm    Post subject: Bob hall pier - this might be helpful Reply with quote

I fished BHP this morning - early 5 ish to around 9 or so - was catching hardheads at first , one sand trout, which I cut up for bait on my 'big' reel. An old timer (older than me, dont laugh) came by and mentioned that he had done very well on nice whiting the day before - I was putting shrimp over my fish bites - and he said, "i wouldnt do that - when we used only fishbites, we caught whiting - when we added shrimp - hard heads all over."

I heard from some going down pins that they were catching hard heads galore too as I was my last trips down - and I was doing the shrimp and fish bites together. I stopped after the old timer passed me the tip - and sure enough, didnt catch but one hard head - caught a few more sand trout and - I caught my best red - this on cut whiting. Filet by the way, the cut slices - didnt happen, but the filet is what got bit. May not mean anything but I will pass it on. Here is my red from this morning - he was a few inches over my 36 inch fish ruler, so call it 38.


Nice looking fish, she high fived me as she swam away, by the way.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice redfish there Donnie. Way to go. Thanks for the tips on the shrimp and fish bites
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice going Donnie👌! So, does this mean that you have graduated from Hardhead Slayer to Whiting Whipper? Cool Might save a good bit of $$$ on shrimp.... maybe enough to offset the gas for more fishing trips? ?!? Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

landlocked beachbum wrote:
Nice going Donnie👌! So, does this mean that you have graduated from Hardhead Slayer to Whiting Whipper? Cool Might save a good bit of $$$ on shrimp.... maybe enough to offset the gas for more fishing trips? ?!? Laughing


Time will tell Dave, lol. For the longest time , I was only fishing with fishbites, but when all the pomp excitement started, I read that we should mix shrimp with fishbites , and I did. But the key to being a good fisherman is to try stuff, and stick to what works but dont stick too long if it stops working.

Sometimes I think I am still a little kid with a zebco and a can of grasshoppers, sitting under a tree fishing at a tank on my grandfathers farm. But this is the surf , and as we say, it changes every day.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks and great report. That was great to find out on the fishbites versus hardheads using shrimp.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats Donnie
Nice catch!
The HH miss you.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tried BHP again last night - got out there around 6ish - two groups of fishermen, they both left - leaving the whole pier to me and my one rig. I found a place to set up - and using just fishbites, caught a small bucket full of sand trout. Well a full quart ziplock bag of fillets anyway. It was not too windy, but large waves, rain and drizzle , but I had a nice fishing sweater and a raincoat, so I just sat and enjoyed the peace and quiet - which I know wont be there very soon as the crowds start to show up. But the fishbites only are catching sandtrout, whiting and avoiding hard heads. The last family to leave were using squid and shrimp and were catching hardheads (doubles - as this cute little 6 year ofd fishing gal told me) and gafftops. Couple of more weeks and I may go back to my evenings at Pins - after Daylight savings is back.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's great that you still have the drive Donnie. Alas..... I sometimes find it hard to drag myself to a great deer stand during the prerut, or even to the lake in about 2-3 weeks when the bass are up in the newly flooded woods!
Embarassed

I still go, but that burning desire to get out the door just packed up and left many years ago..... it's very frustrating and vexing at times! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

landlocked beachbum wrote:
It's great that you still have the drive Donnie. Alas..... I sometimes find it hard to drag myself to a great deer stand during the prerut, or even to the lake in about 2-3 weeks when the bass are up in the newly flooded woods!
Embarassed

I still go, but that burning desire to get out the door just packed up and left many years ago..... it's very frustrating and vexing at times! Rolling Eyes


It left because of pain ? Thats my issue - is I measure how much pain I have to deal with to go - and then I remember when I was a runner, freaking only 4 years ago, and to start a run, there would be these aches and pains that would last a half mile or so , but then would fade. While the pain caused by the bad leg is in a whole different category than the old running aches, I just have to get by it. And for me, a lot of the time, the pain is going to be there , whether I stay at my desk and do my thing, or if I head down pins out into the surf or over to bhp. Thats today - my hope and prayer is that the stuff fades over time. But for now, I'm fishing.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's surely a part of it.... maybe more than I realize. I need Lumbar surgery, and have for decades. Keep putting it off, hoping that procedures improve so that there is less down time and post surgical pain, AND PT!!!

Sitting down isn't too bad in a decent chair, but those are almost as rare as hen's teeth! Standing up and still, as in one location, is what really gets me going in the pain department. I hike a lot, and have gone as far as 9 miles, but usually do 3 in very mountainous terrain. That's not too bad, but standing on a jetty or pier in one spot for longer than 20-30 minutes REALLY makes me look for a place to sit down!!! Shocked Rolling Eyes Holding something out in front of me inly adds to the misery......

The other part is just being jaded with fishing. I fished a LOT as a kid, and a darn good deal since. Especially in freshwater, it seems like the effort is rarely worth the reward.... unless it's Striper fishing! Very Happy Cool Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave, thats the walking I miss. Right now I am up to about 150 yards, thats without the cane or the walker, without limping - thats well rested. I have to get tough enough to not limp because limping makes other places , like the hip and the back hurt. To get to the spot I fished on BHP last night took 4 stops on those little benches to rest and the getting up from the bench is kind of tough. So you balance how much you are hurting from the walking with how much its going to hurt to get back up.

Like I have said on here, 3 years (actually 3 years tomorrow) ago, I was jogging 3 miles 4 days a week and 5 miles on Friday night. And I dont know how far I could walk back then, because nothing stopped me.

And I still really enjoy fishing, I lay in the hospital bed for so long hoping and praying that I could again, didnt think then, I would recover as much as I have. And right now, except for the rain prediction for today, I am thinking, bhp tonight, or down pins.

I am very lucky I live here.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:50 pm    Post subject: back pain sciatica etc Reply with quote

I am sure most of us these days have been helped by surgeries. I am hopeful that more can get help for pain in the back and legs.

This seemingly basic website was the most help for me understanding the symptoms I was having prior to surgery in 2007 (and what happens when I over-do the lifting of heavy objects now...)

General back pain site link (don't let the "chiro" fool you, this guy knows his stuff, and has suffered from dissc problems himself):

https://www.chirogeek.com/


Sciatica link from that site:

https://www.chirogeek.com/Sciatica/sciatica.html

from the above link:

SURGERY TIMING: When To "Pull The Trigger" And Try Surgery?
It is generally agreed upon, assuming the patient is NOT improving, that one should not wait too long before undergoing decompression via discectomy. The the experts can't seem to agree upon is how long the patient should be allowed to suffer. The forthcoming investigations all yield different opinions on when surgery should be performed; however, they all agree that a suffering patient should not wait longer than one year. The average time is currently 4.6 months, so waiting longer than this might decrease your chances of having a successful discectomy. I would seem to be living proof of this, i.e., I waited 15 months and my surgery failed miserably.

Couple of good links from that site:

https://www.chirogeek.com/Anatomy%20Page/lumbarAnatomy.html

https://www.chirogeek.com/Dermatome%20101/dermatomes.html

Good luck, and sorry for a momentary hijack of your thread.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To add to that: I have gotten much better info from chiropractors than MD's. They may not be able to do you much good with an injury/mechanical issue, but at least they aren't HIGHLY overpaid dope pushers!!!! Shocked

Chiropracters have been poo pooed by MD's for way too long. There are "quacks", jerks and hacks in all medical fields, and the opposite is certainly true, and applies to every other aspect of humanity! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

landlocked beachbum wrote:
To add to that: I have gotten much better info from chiropractors than MD's. They may not be able to do you much good with an injury/mechanical issue, but at least they aren't HIGHLY overpaid dope pushers!!!! Shocked

Chiropracters have been poo pooed by MD's for way too long. There are "quacks", jerks and hacks in all medical fields, and the opposite is certainly true, and applies to every other aspect of humanity! Rolling Eyes


Yep, so true. We heard this crap from my doctor brother, and yet everyone in the family, including my folks all went to Chiropractors when we needed them.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hit Bob Hall around 7 - sand trout and whiting were there as well as hardheads - but keeping the fish bites only on my hook, I only brought one hard head in. Just so I wouldnt forget the pos, he left me a scratch about an inch long, and like some others, I am on heavy heart meds, which means blood flows - lots. A couple of concerned young guys that were exploring BHP for the first time - were concerned enough to want to call someone, I cleaned the blood off to show them, it was truly a scratch. Nice young men.

Anyway, back to the important stuff, caught enough for a quart size bag of fillets , almost without getting out of my chair, one rod on each side of me, fish bites on, no shrimp, seems to be the trick for now, at least for avoiding hard heads.

I got this great idea about - throwing out a line right beside the fish cleaning station, took a piece of the first fish I cleaned and put it on a red fish size hook and cast it close to where the waste comes off the table. I still think it was a great idea, but I didnt fool any fish that had to have been hanging around waiting for leftovers.

Not going to bhp or pins tomorrow, going to rest up for the PINS clean up on Saturday ! I have a ton of work to do on Sunday or I would head back down PINS to take pictures, cant wait to see how it looks after the cleanup.
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