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Donnie · Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:50 pm Post subject: Croaker soaker - derogatory ?

Is it considered to be - not sportsman like - to use live croakers ? I have never except when I caught them in my throw net. lol . I am reading and hearing stuff where I think maybe its like hunting deer over a feeder and near water (which if you mentioned during my Arizona days - would get you barred from hanging with 'real' hunters - not to mention it was illegal in Arizona).

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Oil Field Trash II · Full Grown Flour Bluffian Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 1560

only by people who have ran out of things to be mad about.

Very Happy

They're a good bait. natural food that most predatory fish eat. I guess it's only sportsmanlike when you use really really poo poo lures that don't work well? haha

DMAC · Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:22 pm Post subject: croaker soakers

Don't think it's particularly derogatory. Probably more the 'easy way out fisherman' type connotation. They're for sure deadly bait a lot of times but not always. Need good lively ones and still got to be where some fish are. And, yeah, it's kind of like hunters where they can't hunt feeders looking at Texas hunting and poo pooing. Let them try to spot-n-stalk deer here or pick out a mesquite tree to sit in and they'll see how that goes.

Donnie · Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:35 pm Post subject: Re: croaker soakers

DMAC · Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 4:23 pm Post subject: croaker soaker

Hey, if you want to fish croakers, shoot, soak away. I have many times in the past and, if I should get the urge, would do so in the future. If someone has a problem with it, well, that's their problem. GL. D

DMAC · Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 4:39 pm Post subject:

On a sidenote, kinda funny comparison. I've been bow hunting only for some years now, we call gun hunters 'smoke polers', still not particularly derogatory. They're just below our dignity. Laughing

mechdave · Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:50 pm Post subject:

Same thing happens in the diving community. Free-divers diss bubble blowers. Though truth be told I can get closer to fish without scuba than I can on scuba. Problem is I can't breath hold to 120 feet.
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BayFly · Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:27 pm Post subject:

Thanks for this funny thread! Very Happy

I've only fished croaker one time and did not catch a thing! I guess they have their day, but we did not catch anything on artificials that day either. Sad

Donnie · Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:28 pm Post subject:

Well so much for soaking croakers. Will stick to the nice collection of lures i have (as any of you have mentioned a type and a color in the last several months, I ordered them) .

Brother and I ( and my fisherman daughter) have agreed, going to be the old days, which was set up to fish with heavy surf spin rig (my brother's) and my 4/0. Then fish for whiting, keep some for dinner, the little ones go on the 'big rigs' for reds, blacktips, etc. And keep one rig with plugs on it - to cast when things look right. Also, the good old cast net will get us any live stuff around.

And just enjoy being out there - we are lucky to live here. Thanks for the suggestions , tips, etc.

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Willee · Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:21 am Post subject:

Odd ... this thread ... as I always thought bait is bait no matter live or dead, real or artificial. You are luring the fish to do its natural thing and that is to eat.

Its still seams like a step above shanking them while they sleep.

I suppose a real fisherman would just grab them with their hands ... noodling ... the only real sporting way to fish! ... Rolling Eyes

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Predapex · Horse Mullet Joined: 06 Sep 2013 Posts: 181

Hey it's legal and this is a free country use croaker.....but I'm gonna make fun of you all day long.

Entertaining to see 3 dudes in a $50k Majek throwing croaker from the front and rear casting platforms that he paid an extra $5k for.....All 3 wearing HUK shirts, flat billed HUK hats some designer nike kicks with a fluorescent component and buffs...prolly Apple watches too but hard to see the watches.

PS. They kill a lot of big sow trout gut hooking fish. But I guess they ain't throwing them back so it don't really matter.

Tyler · Site Admin Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 12865

Yes it is a free country and boy I have been where lures got you squat and croaker brought home good quality fish. Prime example was the past few days at Mustang in the surf. I have no problem with it except for a concern that many prime spawners get taken out of the equation. And honestly it is not the huge ones I am concerned with, they have had the chance to pass along their genes, it is the 22 to 26" fish.

But then again TPW has done a good job predicting the amount of pressure the resource can take. I tell you what I would gladly soak a croaker with my late Dad to get him a fish because he was too blind to lure fish any longer. How's that for staying on the fence? Wink

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Predapex · Horse Mullet Joined: 06 Sep 2013 Posts: 181

You're absolutely right! elderly, kids, noobs, handicaped are all excluded from my narasistuc ridicule and loathing. Get out there and soak some croaker. Everyone else. Get a life. Jk jk. Everyone has their buttons.....mine is croaker.

Donnie · Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:37 am Post subject:

landlocked beachbum · Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:11 pm Post subject:

I have always thought that term was more than a little elitist, with all due respect to the users of said term if it wasn't really meant that way.

I use lures and live offerings for most fishing. As has been discussed, on some days one will work when the other won't, and I fish to eat first, have fun second!!! Cool

When lures are on, they offer much faster fishing than messing with bait, be it live or dead. To each their own, but I don't look down my nose at "Plastic Chunkers"!!! Shocked

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