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Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm · Full Grown Flour Bluffian Joined: 01 May 2008 Posts: 3974

so, with this extended THE Red Snapper season, marinas and businesses all up and down the coast are "reporting" record seasons with the sale of ice, gas, bait, motel stays, etc....

question is; how do we capture that data? Visitors Bureau's? comptrollers office? texas state tax accounting? there has to be some metric we can dig into and get at least an estimate...
becky
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Central Scrutinizer · Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:14 pm Post subject:

All good data and all, but it does not have a place in the current stock assessment framework........

Sat in, via the internet, the Congressional House Natural Resources Subcommittee on Water, Power, and Oceans Oversight Committee, on H.R. 200, 'Strengthening Fishing Communities and Increasing Flexibility in Fisheries Management Act'.

It was billed as documenting the 'Successes and Challenges of the Magnuson-Stevens Act'. Ultimately, it would add some flexibility to the MSA with respect to some of the hard ACT/ACL numbers and penalties for overages (mainly for the rec side). THE red snapper was a big part of the hearing, as you would expect! Shockingly, few 'success stories' were shared about the ways things are done now. There were witnesses from Florida, New Jersey, New York, and Hawaii. This link gives more background. https://naturalresources.house.gov/calendar/eventsingle.aspx?EventID=402475

Don't have a good feel as for how this Legislation will be ultimately received, but it does relax some of the hard targets within MSA and may be beneficial to each of the Gulf States.

This is similar Legislation that was forwarded by an Alaskan Rep (can't recall his name, but has been pushing for changes to the MSA for some time). It was ultimately allowed to die by the last Administration, with the help of many environmental groups lobbying against it, under the blanket of 'they (rec fisherman) want to catch all the fish in the sea, have have no more accountability"...... Rolling Eyes

Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm · Full Grown Flour Bluffian Joined: 01 May 2008 Posts: 3974

Central Scrutinizer · Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:55 pm Post subject:

Many, MANY thumbs up Becky!!!
You get what is going on!
CS

SailBad the Sinner · Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:59 am Post subject:

Nothing like using hard stats to counter SWAGs (scientific wild a$$ guess) by the GCCC. Economic data is more persuasive to the DC types. That is what they campaign on. No one got elected by promising more days of snapper. More money is universally understood. Going the Dept. of Commerce route will gain the traction this issue needs and ultimately the funds will flow for proper research and a more equitable accounting, especially when you look at the difference in impact of commercial fishermen versus recreational to a local economy. I'd place money that rec's bring more dollars to town.

Although there is that old German saying that goes:" Never trust any statistic you didn't fake yourself. "

Nick
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Oil Field Trash II · Full Grown Flour Bluffian Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 1560

BayFly · Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:57 am Post subject:

The recs certainly pay more total income tax, and contribute more to the local coastal income tax, not to mention hotel, gasoline, alcohol, etc. taxes. Those same economics are what resulted in making the difference when the GCCA was trying to get redfish and trout made game fish in Texas. It's great to finally see the economics approach applied to the snapper problem, and to offset all of the bad stats!