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Baffinboy Flour Bluffian in training
Joined: 05 Nov 2012 Posts: 416 Location: San Antonio/Bishop
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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I use a half a live shrimp, small straight hook, and a chatter weight about 12" above it. Fling it up close to the jetties as close as u can and don't let them pull you back in the rocks. I catch tons this way _________________ But you ain't got no legs Lt. Dan, I know that |
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landlocked beachbum Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 5811 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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"A half a live shrimp"???? I think that's an oxymoron, kind of like sanitary landfill!
They DO like cover..... After all, they are called Mangrove Snapper because they are thick in the Margove roots when young. As always, if you ain't getting snagged now and again, you ain't close enough to the cover!  _________________ Dave
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits". Albert Einstein |
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team_fishbones_jones Finger Mullet
Joined: 22 Mar 2012 Posts: 34 Location: San Antonio
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| At packery they like mojarra more than anything. Gotta search for them though in the rocks to throw a net on. I usually free line them |
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landlocked beachbum Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 5811 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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Funny how things go: in all the fishing, seining and cast netting (admittedly not that much of the latter) that I have done down there over the decades, I/we never caught any mojarra. Then I go to Sebastian Inlet for the first time in my life a few years ago, drive as far west as the park road will go, right next to the pass, then walk out to a sandy point with the incoming tide flooding over it. Mojarra central baby!
The jacks LOVED them......
Just out of curiosity, have you ever tried a 2" pinfish? EVERYTHING eats them, and to me at least, they last longer in the livewell, baitbucket or on the hook than any other fish I've had the chance to try. _________________ Dave
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits". Albert Einstein |
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SeanHHH Member White Shrimper Boot Club
Joined: 05 May 2006 Posts: 550 Location: San Antonio
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| I've caught them from the Port A south jetty, free lining live shrimp. Cast up current and let the shrimp sink as the the current pulls the bait across. Be ready for a quick hook set. |
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chapcat54 Horse Mullet
Joined: 15 Jun 2015 Posts: 185
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:23 am Post subject: |
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| landlocked beachbum wrote: | | ......Just out of curiosity, have you ever tried a 2" pinfish? EVERYTHING eats them, and to me at least, they last longer in the livewell, baitbucket or on the hook than any other fish I've had the chance to try. |
I carry a tiny Shimano egg beater with a short little rod in addition to my regular rods and reels. Using a tiny little hook baited with a small fleck of Fish Bites, I catch 2 inch pinfish for bait when I do fish with naturals. Since moving back to CC in January, I have not had any luck yet fishing with them, but I have caught good fish in years past using them. Just never Mangrove Snapper.
I agree that pinfish on the hook or in the bait box are hearty little varmints. |
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landlocked beachbum Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 5811 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:12 am Post subject: |
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Are you using relatively light Fluoro leaders and small hooks? Mangroves can get very tackle shy at and early age.  _________________ Dave
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits". Albert Einstein |
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landlocked beachbum Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 5811 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:36 am Post subject: |
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I found this article from the Caller Times, 2007. Good info but most is already covered. My only disagreement would be the hook size and line weight, but hey, use what you want! If you aren't catching Mangroves, the answer is right in front of you!
I would much rather hook fish and loose a few becuse of lighter rigs than never hook them at all, it's a yin/yang thingy.
http://www.caller.com/sports/sikesoutdoors_20140509035537927 _________________ Dave
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits". Albert Einstein |
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TheDude Pony Mullet

Joined: 25 Feb 2013 Posts: 56 Location: San Antonio
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:04 am Post subject: |
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Two summers ago I caught numerous mangrove snappers from both packery and port a jetties, the bigger ones coming from the end of the port a south jetty. I always free-line shrimp near the rocks but the most recent years I have not personally caught any or seen any one catch any at port a for some reason. Typically we are thorough, working both sides of the jetty working are way to the end looking for anything that will bite. IMO they are definitely not as plentiful as there where 2 summers ago but that's just my experience... _________________ Work is for people who dont know how to fish! |
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ltorna1 Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 17 Apr 2009 Posts: 3240
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:06 am Post subject: |
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Mojarra seem to show up at the jetties en mass and then disappear for long stretches. When they are there they are excellent bait for EVERYTHING.
You all basically covered everything under the sun here, only thing I will add: 1. little watermelon shad work well too if they are schooling against the rocks. 2. the smallest live finger mullet you can get are candy for mangroves, snook and just about anything on the jetty, fished right on the face of the rocks. The good part about a live fish is that the pinfish and piggies wont eat them instantly. _________________ ...if my boss ever finds this forum I'll be unemployed... |
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chapcat54 Horse Mullet
Joined: 15 Jun 2015 Posts: 185
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks to all who contributed their advice. It is much appreciated. |
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Hechoporagua
Joined: 06 Aug 2012 Posts: 8 Location: Padre Island
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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I have been free diving at packery for the past few years and have noticed that the population of mangroves thins out through the summer months. I believe they are migrational fish who like tropical water temps. As such, they usually show up in force around May. Since there is no size or bag limit on these fish they get pressured from the spear fisherman pretty immensely. I have taken some in the 5 to 6 lb range and have seen a few 10 lb+ greys as well. They are prohibitively smart at that size and do not show there face for more than a nanosecond. Most 15in + and bigger seek constant cover in small caves and passways underneath rocks. For rod and reel, being able to fit your bait in these prime holes without getting snagged on the rocks would be my advice. The local populations of snook and mangrove seem (to me) to be going in opposite directions. Snook have virtually unlimited protection as catching one is the slot is extremely rare here whereas the mangroves get hammered. I would like to see TPWD set a bag limit on the greys.
Here is go pro still of grey ghost that got away two weeks ago.
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landlocked beachbum Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 5811 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Dude...... I appreciate this post tremendously; It's backs up my point that NOT ALL adult Mangroves head for deep water! I know this first hand from catching a few in the 4-7 pound range at the ends of jetties, which is most definitely not "offshore"!
As with all things in nature (like climate), there are patterns here and there, but very few certainties. There will always be exceptions to every "rule", and conversely, including the word "always" when predicting the habits of anything in nature makes one automatically, and always, incorrect !
Take this poster's observations to heart forum brothers and sisters; NICE Mangroves ARE there, if you are smart enough, patient enough and persistent enough, and a little luck never hurts in any kind of fishing. Having said that, catching nice Mangroves reminds me of two quotes: "The more I practice, the luckier I get" and "Luck is where preparation meets opportunity"!!!
http://www.dofloridaright.com/index.php/outdoor/fishing/177-summer-inshore-mangrove-snapper-fishing _________________ Dave
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TXHill Horse Mullet
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 216 Location: PINS
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| They can also be caught in the surf around any kind of structure. We've caught several on charters this spring on plastics hunting trout. Jeff Wolda |
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Quick Karl Guest
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Hechoporagua wrote: | | I have been free diving at packery for the past few years and have noticed that the population of mangroves thins out through the summer months. I believe they are migrational fish who like tropical water temps. As such, they usually show up in force around May. |
I am a little confused by this and I wonder if you can clarify? If the population thins out in the summer months and they prefer tropical water temps, where do you suspect they are going?
I would venture a wild guess that they would go south, in the winter, if water temps were what is moving them? |
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