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Main Cause the Surf Turns Coffee Brown

 
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Fishmeister
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:21 pm    Post subject: Main Cause the Surf Turns Coffee Brown Reply with quote

What are the main things that turn the surf to coffee/chocolate milk brown? Wind direction swell direction or both or I don't know?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strong NE winds, sargassum on the bottom with excessive winds in any direction, coldwater upwelling, tropical system out in some portion of the gulf see NE winds. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

About 15 years ago my boss hired Billy for a trip. We knew the front was coming with 60MPH winds so we built a Quonset hut and dug in at the Mansfield Jetty. The next morning Billy Showed up for our guided trip. He said our hut looked like the moon landing. He gave us the option to reschedule, however my boss wanted to see if Billy could put us on fish in the chocolate milk. Billy accepted the challenge grabbed his cast net and walked the beach for two hours throwing the net until he netted two horse mullet. He explained that the big reds come in to feed on the storm battered bait and just needed a big chunk with enough scent to locate. We caught one Bull Red and two Black Drum all over 40 inches. Billy won that challenge.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few years ago some big hurricanes went into mexico and filled the rio grande up. All that muddy water coming out destroyed the surf fishing for weeks. Hardheads galore.
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Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hoggeman wrote:
About 15 years ago my boss hired Billy for a trip. We knew the front was coming with 60MPH winds so we built a Quonset hut and dug in at the Mansfield Jetty. The next morning Billy Showed up for our guided trip. He said our hut looked like the moon landing. He gave us the option to reschedule, however my boss wanted to see if Billy could put us on fish in the chocolate milk. Billy accepted the challenge grabbed his cast net and walked the beach for two hours throwing the net until he netted two horse mullet. He explained that the big reds come in to feed on the storm battered bait and just needed a big chunk with enough scent to locate. We caught one Bull Red and two Black Drum all over 40 inches. Billy won that challenge.
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that's a good story Hogge....thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was a kid and living down there a few times in the 60's, the water was almost ALWAYS chocolate milk brown, no matter the wind direction or strength, or wave size. The green water days were so rare that it was enough to make even my mom and uncle half giddy when we drove through the dunes and got the first glimpse of the surf!!!! Shocked Very Happy Back then, there was no teaser from the top of the JFK Bridge, only a low draw/swing type bridge, if memory serves me.

On the other hand, the largest surf I ever saw out there was hitting the bottom of the old wooden BHP, August of '69, and yet the water was the most beautiful that any of us had ever seen on the Texas coast. Point being, there's more going on than wind direction, strength, and wave size.

CC Bay was a freaking mudhole back then, not the greenish semi clear that it usually is now. If the same holds true for the other big bays with outlets to the gulf, that may explain some the "more muddy water days" back then as compared to now. As a comparison: these days there's a radical difference between the water coming from the Oso and CC Bay. Back then, they usually looked about the same or had no difference at all ! Embarassed
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