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MakoJJ
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Predapex wrote:

Mako and all the boats at bass pro are junk don't bother.


Not trying to start a fight here, but Mako hulls are actually pretty solid (nothing like the old ones, but still very good). Rigging at Tracker in SA was mediocre to say the least...I ended up replacing lots of parts on my LTS. My hull and Merc 90 took a little bit of a beating when I first came to the ULM a few years back LOL... Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm also not trying to start anything, just speaking from boat building, boat repair experience and a couple of visits to the factory where Mako's are built, and I posted about this before.

"Solid" and strong are not the same thing, and I don't assume to know your definition or or thoughts on the matter as they pertain to Mako boats. What I can say, again, is that they use a good bit too much resin. Polyester resin is like a stronger version of peanut brittle, with brittle being the key word here. One of the great attributes of fiberglass is it's flexural strength. The ability to flex a little (even a very little) without fracture or breaking adds greatly to the safe working life of a boat or any FRP structure. Polyester resin doesn't doesn't do so great at this, which is why only enough should be used to wet out the glass and no more. Anything more makes for layers of strong peanut brittle between the layers of glass, and this is where delamination and fracture start.

Polyester resin is also heavy, but that extra resin only makes the boat weigh more without making is stronger, or more "solid" as you said. Especially for a flats or shallow water type of craft, every pound of weight is greater draft and a greater stern dip at hole shot and a longer time to reach plane, not good!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johninaustin wrote:
Predapex wrote:
Majek redfish twin pro Yamaha. It's like a 4x4 boat
Maverick HPX 17. So light you can push it when you run it on a sand bar. If you are new to boats you WILL run its aground.
The xpress boats are great for first boats too cuz you WILL run it aground.
Mako and all the boats at bass pro are junk don't bother.


Yes, the Majeks are nice. The OP may think differently but I don't have 40K. That's money I can put towards land and the house.

This is one I'm thinking on. Trading the current boat means I only have to come up with 3K or so.

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/2000-McKee-Craft-1800WT-102132942#



Oh. I was thinking bay flats fishing. Never mind. I have no pennies to offer on fish an ski open water boats. Good luck !
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: San Antonio Boat Show Reply with quote

reallifetexan wrote:
captfrankie wrote:
I went to the San Antonio Boat Show last year. It was a big disappointment . There weren't that many bay , flats boats and not that many vendors. I went to the Houston Show the year before. It was a nice show. lots of boats from lots of dealers. lots and lots of vendors. Do you have an idea of what your looking for? Narrow it down to a few boats . Try to go for a few rides then drop the hammer. I did that last year and purchased a Desperado Outlaw 22. Absolutely the nicest , best riding boat I've been in. They make a 16 .


Captfrankie, I have pretty much decided that the Desperado 22 is going to be my next boat in a few years, when (if) I can hopefully afford it, as it seems to offer the best compromise between a good ride on the open bay in choppy water, and shallow water performance. Have you poled this boat in shallow water, and if so, how was it? Do you get beat up in choppy bay water at a decent speed? Have you taken it to the nearby rigs offshore, and did you feel comfortable doing it? Am interested in whether you agree that this boat really does offer the right compromise between shallow water and open water performance. Thanks in advance for your opinions, I haven't met anyone yet who owns one of these boats other than the dealer.


The desperado is an awesome boat. It does what Dennis says it does. I really wanted one bad but came across a used Gulf Coast that gets pretty close and was 1/3 the cost. Boats are ALWAYS a compromise. Cost, comfort, speed, size, shallowness, deep water ability, ect. Buy what you can afford and use the heck out of it, then decide on what compromises you want to make for your next one.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're darn tootin' about all boats being compromises..... After all, spouses are, boats MUST be!!!!!! Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are selling our Shoalwater 22 Legend. It has a 2009 Mercury Optimax on it with about 90 hours. A new (2013) Coastline double axle trailer. Will come with drift socks, aluminum anchor, Stiffy push pole. Great boat! We keep it in Flour Bluff but are bringing it to San Antonio next weekend for sale make ready.

We are partnering on a Haynie Bigfoot with a new 200 HP Mercury. That is the reason we are selling our old friend.

Asking $14,995....
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bbxsbs wrote:


We are partnering on a Haynie Bigfoot with a new 200 HP Mercury. That is the reason we are selling our old friend.



Still too much boat for me but...drooooll.
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