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J.McDonald Knives Flour Bluffian in training

Joined: 19 Aug 2010 Posts: 461 Location: Corpus Christi, TX
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:57 am Post subject: Anyone do much shark fishing? |
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| I got into really doing some shark fishing just last year and am highly addicted to it now. Planning on going down PINS to do some surf fishing for sharks in about a month from now. Anyone know of a good area along PINS where its pretty deep between 2nd and 3rd cut or just a good area in general to do some major shark fishing? I'm going to be out there for a few days and camp on the beach. Waiting on tax return to get me another rod and reel, one that I can get my bait out there a lot further. Planning on 15' Ugly Stik and a Shimano Spheros 18000 with 50lb Power Pro and 80lb mono top shot. Any tips on good locations is appreciated. |
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hickroots07 Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 01 Nov 2011 Posts: 1714 Location: cc, TEXAS!
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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Well first off welcome to the board. However asking for anyones honeyhole is pretty much just wrong and not tolerated well. People work long and hard to find places that are more consistant than others so to ask where would be cheating.
Simply put the beach is always changing. The further south you go the deeper the guts are generally. Look for changes in beach, like pinches or washouts, deeper than normal guts, birds working over bait, birds chillin on the sand, etc... in the water look for bait. No bait equals few predators. Also look at tide changes and surf conditions like clarity and swell size and choppiness.
There are alot of factors that come into play when surf fishing so your best bet, like most of us, is get out when you can and go to where the conditions are in your favor. Have fun and post reports! _________________ Great captains, the stuff of legend, are made not by what they have caught, but by what they have given back. |
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JOHNNYREB Member White Shrimper Boot Club
Joined: 11 Nov 2007 Posts: 721 Location: The bluff
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome to the addiction! Theres no specific mile marker for catching shark, But a good bet is anywhere from the 20s south imo. If i could make a suggestion, the rig your describing is good for casting into the 1st gut but any further then that you could get yourself in trouble. The second gut and beyond is convetional reel territory. A good 6/0wide or an avet of simillar size is what ya need for those distances. Its not necessarily how far you can cast...as much as it is putting your bait in the right location. As far as locating fish it takes a good eye and hundreds of hours of beach time. Typicly, this time of year calls for long drops, sometimes 500 yds plus, to reach the sandbar sharks....not always...but typicly. The surf temps need to get up in the high 60s for the bulls and BTs. Good luck man!
Again jmo...but ya give up a lot of leverage with a 15' rod. _________________ SOUTHERN CUSTOMS
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J.McDonald Knives Flour Bluffian in training

Joined: 19 Aug 2010 Posts: 461 Location: Corpus Christi, TX
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Didn't mean to suggest I was asking for someones honey hole, I was just looking for tips on what areas of the beach had the conditions I was looking for. I should have specified that I was looking for info on what part of the beach had the deep guts, if I should be looking closer to the end of PINS, middle, or closer to Bob Hall. |
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J.McDonald Knives Flour Bluffian in training

Joined: 19 Aug 2010 Posts: 461 Location: Corpus Christi, TX
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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| JOHNNYREB wrote: | Welcome to the addiction! Theres no specific mile marker for catching shark, But a good bet is anywhere from the 20s south imo. If i could make a suggestion, the rig your describing is good for casting into the 1st gut but any further then that you could get yourself in trouble. The second gut and beyond is convetional reel territory. A good 6/0wide or an avet of simillar size is what ya need for those distances. Its not necessarily how far you can cast...as much as it is putting your bait in the right location. As far as locating fish it takes a good eye and hundreds of hours of beach time. Typicly, this time of year calls for long drops, sometimes 500 yds plus, to reach the sandbar sharks....not always...but typicly. The surf temps need to get up in the high 60s for the bulls and BTs. Good luck man!
Again jmo...but ya give up a lot of leverage with a 15' rod. |
I've got a lot of practice in so far with my 9ft ugly stick from casting at Caldwell. I'll see how well it works and if its too long I'll drop down to the 12ft. I can chunk my 9ft MH ugly stick around 150yrds off of Caldwell with 60lb power pro, 10ft steel leader, 3oz-4oz weight, and about 2oz of cut bait. I'm just trying to get an extra 50yrds, hence the bigger setup lol. |
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FishBites Horse Mullet

Joined: 25 Apr 2012 Posts: 128 Location: Kingsville
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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| I really want to get into shark fishing as well, I want to start out with pup sharks in the first gut as my biggest reel is a Penn 309. |
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J.McDonald Knives Flour Bluffian in training

Joined: 19 Aug 2010 Posts: 461 Location: Corpus Christi, TX
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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| FishBites wrote: | | I really want to get into shark fishing as well, I want to start out with pup sharks in the first gut as my biggest reel is a Penn 309. |
Believe it or not, you can catch the pups on bass tackle. I pulled in a 45" Atlantic Sharpnose on nothing but a 7' MH Ugly Stick, 4000 sized spinning reel, and 30lb power pro on just a basic home made redfish rig. They are a blast to play with. If you can fight a 40" bull red, you can fight a pup shark with no problem. |
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Remsky Finger Mullet
Joined: 23 Sep 2012 Posts: 20 Location: San Antonio
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| I bought a 15 ft ugly stix last year. I also have a 12ft. I can blast that 12 ft a hell of a lot further than that 15 ft. I feel like its just a little to big for me, but I'm only 5'7". Are you going to b casting your shark rigs or paddling them out? |
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JOHNNYREB Member White Shrimper Boot Club
Joined: 11 Nov 2007 Posts: 721 Location: The bluff
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Two things ive always beleived in....
Ya DONT hunt bears with a .22....and ya DONT kayak a spinning reel!
Do yourself and your equipment a favor.  _________________ SOUTHERN CUSTOMS
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J.McDonald Knives Flour Bluffian in training

Joined: 19 Aug 2010 Posts: 461 Location: Corpus Christi, TX
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| JOHNNYREB wrote: | Two things ive always beleived in....
Ya DONT hunt bears with a .22....and ya DONT kayak a spinning reel!
Do yourself and your equipment a favor.  |
LOL I ain't going to be yaking out my spinning reels. I'm going to look into later on getting a boat rod with a big bluewater reel. The main reason why I go with spinning reels is that I'm right handed but I reel left handed and its much more affordable to buy spinning reels and most of my strength is in my right arm. |
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hickroots07 Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 01 Nov 2011 Posts: 1714 Location: cc, TEXAS!
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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My first shark set up was a 4/0 loaded with braid and a top shot of mono. I magged the reel and paired it with a 12' American Rodsmiths heavy rod. I liked that set up alot. Thar was the start... now i own several 4/0 and 6/0 and 9/0. I think for the money they are great reels but compared to newer technology like avets they are SLOW! You can catch fish with the large penn reels just fine i think it just takes more work. So ya let the addiction begin. They are pretty much indestructible and are easy to clean and parts are super easy to find. So starting out, pick up a 6/0 or a 9/0 and have a blast! _________________ Great captains, the stuff of legend, are made not by what they have caught, but by what they have given back. |
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J.McDonald Knives Flour Bluffian in training

Joined: 19 Aug 2010 Posts: 461 Location: Corpus Christi, TX
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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| hickroots07 wrote: | | My first shark set up was a 4/0 loaded with braid and a top shot of mono. I magged the reel and paired it with a 12' American Rodsmiths heavy rod. I liked that set up alot. Thar was the start... now i own several 4/0 and 6/0 and 9/0. I think for the money they are great reels but compared to newer technology like avets they are SLOW! You can catch fish with the large penn reels just fine i think it just takes more work. So ya let the addiction begin. They are pretty much indestructible and are easy to clean and parts are super easy to find. So starting out, pick up a 6/0 or a 9/0 and have a blast! |
Only downside is that to find one in a left hand retrieve is very very hard to do and you can't convert the right hand over to left hand if I remember correctly but if you can it costs a lot of money and for the money spent on that I could buy 2-3 of the spinning reel I want for this setup. Forgot to mention that I am on a very limited budget right now, lol. If I had the money I would spend it on a couple of custom left hand retrieve Avet reels loaded with 1000yrds or more of braid and would be yaking out my baits, lol. |
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Stinger-A Flour Bluffian in training
Joined: 17 Mar 2011 Posts: 300 Location: Alice, Tx
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Again, welcome to the addiction!!! I've got all the gear, reels, rods, and a frenzy kayak. The only thing I've had problems with are the leaders. I've made my own with weed eater string, coated metal cable and 20/0 circle hooks. I found out the hard way/expensive way, that the secret to good shark fishing is bait presentation and leaders. I've yet to pull in a big one ( 7ft and up), but I'm putting in my time. I'm also getting older and anything over 2ft seas I shake my head at. Look into good leaders and good luck, hope to see a report from you soon _________________ Stinger-A |
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Jake h Horse Mullet
Joined: 02 Jun 2011 Posts: 129 Location: Ingleside
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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I say if spinning reels are what you have and want to fish with then use them and don't let anyone talk you out of it. I shark fish a lot and have the big stuff, Penn Internationals and senators. If you ever want to meet up and chase some sharks just pm me. I'm no expert but I manage to put a few sharks on the beach. Be glad to help others any way I can. Good luck. _________________ Jake |
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SaltyMutt Member White Shrimper Boot Club

Joined: 12 Feb 2012 Posts: 629 Location: Corpus Christi
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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Not trying to steal your post J M but this has been great info by all. I'm just starting the whole PINS thing myself. I bought me a sealine 50 and put it on a "slightly" customized 12' ugly stick. Not expecting to target large shark. Agree with Jake totally, if it makes you comfy go for it!
Maybe we can hook up and head out there sometime J M. I have ALOT to learn myself and can't wait to get back out there! _________________ I like fishies |
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