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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SaltyCuda wrote:
The Silver lining!

He can't do it a third time!


Depends on whats left after try #2. Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

I keep reminding myself that I survived 8 years of Bill Clinton, and I made it my personal duty to never hear a complete sentence from that buffoon while he was in Office. I suppose I could re-instate that rule for the next 4 years.

But then again, after the 21st of December, will it all really matter anyways? Surprised Surprised Surprised
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CS, BIG difference there buddy: Clinton was forced to the middle to get re-elected because of a Republican majority in Congress and also forced (kicking and screaming) into all of the decisions that now he alone gets credit for!!!!! The balanced budget being one and the supposed surplus that lefties rail about but which only ever existed on paper and was also over a 10 year projection IF EVERYTHING held or got better, which is pie in the sky, Utopian BS!

I found this concerning the Franklin quote, and it's another typical example of how the left is co-opting and attempting to change history:
http://www.blogster.com/feralpuppies/benjamin-franklin-said-we-have-given-you-a-political persuasion that shall not be mentioned-republic-if-you-can-keep-it
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clinton was way better than Obama. In the primaries when Hillary was trying to get the nomination I remember saying I'd much rather have Hillary because we already lived through her rule once. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Clinton was forced to the middle to get re-elected because of a Republican majority in Congress and also forced (kicking and screaming) into all of the decisions that now he alone gets credit for!!!!!


The fact the the House is still under the control of the grown-ups is the 1 and ONLY good thing to come out of this week. Perhaps Obama can be equally forced to move in the direction of common sense, but given the last 4 years without a budget as history to guide us, it looks like that movement towards the center is not happening any time soon. For the want of a couple of Senate seats.... Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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landlocked beachbum wrote:
Clinton was forced to the middle to get re-elected because of a Republican majority in Congress and also forced (kicking and screaming) into all of the decisions that now he alone gets credit for!!!!!


The fact the the House is still under the control of the grown-ups is the 1 and ONLY good thing to come out of this week. Perhaps Obama can be equally forced to move in the direction of common sense, but given the last 4 years without a budget as history to guide us, it looks like that movement towards the center is not happening any time soon. For the want of a couple of Senate seats.... Crying or Very sad


He won't be forced to move to the center, but I'm hoping for major gridlock and lack of ability for him to get anything done.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have money in the markets (retirement funds, etc.) just know this last quarter is going to be a disaster. Consult your financial advisers.

Value funds and bond funds for me for a while.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was using the term Congress in it's formal meaning: the House and the Senate, BOTH of which were in republican hands during Clinton's second term and also why he was forced to move to the center. Again, the left never mentions this simple fact when crediting Clinton alone for such a "great" four years........

http://learningenglish.voanews.com/content/american-history-bill-clintons-second-term-as-president-141026303/607297.html
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing that any of us may say on this forum will change the minds of or the votes of anyone.

But I can tell you what will (or at least will change some), Time!!!

Some will likely still want others to take care of them for the rest of their lives, a few will have a change in thought.

I pose this question, When in life does the change take place?

The first time I cast my vote, I had independence, a home, people depending on me.

I have seen good times and I have seen hard times, I can remeber exactly who was in the White House during both.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In James Michener's great novel "Texas", he made the point towards the end that in no other state do so many dems change to the other side of thinking.

Me thinks that a growing number of transplanted yankees may have altered that somewhat! Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

landlocked beachbum wrote:
In James Michener's great novel "Texas", he made the point towards the end that in no other state do so many dems change to the other side of thinking.

Me thinks that a growing number of transplanted yankees may have altered that somewhat! Shocked


You made me think a little. Not sure if I can say this in a way that will convey my thoughts as I mean them.

Interesting how the country votes, people living in areas where basic survival relys on self support and people in... well let's just leave it there and see where the responses come from. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SaltyCuda wrote:
The Silver lining!

He can't do it a third time!

Hope we're still here to wish him off...

My Stocks fell dramatically today (Imagine).
Yes he can. 1) Put one more liberal on the Supreme Court. 2) Declare the amendment limiting the president to two terms unconstitutional (because the people should be able to elect who they want without restriction). 3)Obama becomes dictator. And there would not be a damned thing that the Real Americans can do to stop it. Think not? We already have four of our supreme court justices thinking that they should interpret the laws under the UN charter instead of our constitution. If that doesn't scare you, you probably can't be scared.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I just don't get it. Back in the 60's it was the political persuasion that shall not be mentioned that didn't lilke civil rights movement. They didn't like Affirmative Action. They didn't like Kenedy because he was too conservative. How the hell did this all get changed around? The devil did a good job about getting people to believe he doesn't exist.
Back when I was young (loooooooong time ago), almost every voter in Texas was a political persuasion that shall not be mentioned. They were the working man's party. Today they are the non-working man's party. I am not a republican (and you should all be as offended by "corporate welfare" as you are by paying people to not work), but I am certainly not a nation destroying political persuasion that shall not be mentioned. We are lost till the revolution. Not looking forward to it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose you could look back far enough in time to support just about any belief or scenario.

Seems not that long ago we were ruled by a king and queen, that changed.

Dictators of late are not typically doing so well around the world are they?

It should be intersting over the next few years.
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