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| Should NO FISHING signs be posted in any public place? |
| If fishing is prohibited in a public place, all other persons also should be prohibited from there? Click if you agree. |
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| Excuses of potential liability and littering are NOT sufficient rationale for prohibiting fishing? Click if you agree. |
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| Anglers SHOULD NOT be considered a Home Security threat when no other persons are categorized as a threat? Click if you agree. |
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| Fishing from public places CAN BE prohibited while other activities are OK. Click if you agree. |
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| Excuses of potential liability and littering ARE sufficient rationale for prohibiting fishing? Click if you agree. |
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| Anglers SHOULD BE considered a Home Security threat when no other persons are categorized as a threat? Click if you agree. |
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BobBobber
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 Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:03 am Post subject: NO FISHING on public properties |
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NO FISHING signs are posted in many public places. BUT there are no restrictions for any other activity.
Private properties are another matter entirely. I have no problem with that. The owners can place any restrictions on the use of their private properties.
BUT should public properties be open also for anglers when all others have access?
One example in CC, is the ship channel in the area adjacent to the Ortiz Center. We asked the security guard who told us that fishing there and to the shoreline at the end of their parking lot was forbidden. He said to blame it on Homeland Security concerns.
Supposedly, anglers should be considered as potential terrorists!
On the other hand, people can park any vehicle with unknown contents in the parking lot beneath the bridge. People can pull a cooler and have a picnic lunch there.
But the angler with rod, reel and tackle box is seen as the only real threat to our safety. Therefore all anglers must stay away.
Additionally, other fishing-forbidden places, like piers, docks and boat slips, often are the properties of the Texas State or Texas universities and agencies.
Since these places are supported by our tax dollars, should anglers be excluded . . . even though other activities are allowed? What do you think?
Later edit: I added three other options for poll responses, so there were YES and NO answers to the poll questions.
I just found that you can only answer one of the poll questions. Maybe Tyler can make it possible for us to post votes on several at a time. Tyler responded that making the poll do what I wanted might not be possible without remaking the entire post. So, for now at least, of the six poll choices, mark the one that seems most important to you.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:44 am Post subject: |
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Signs..signs..everywhere theres signs.... 
Nowhere along the surf line have i seen a posted " NO FISHING " sign ! Pick your spot, grab a lawn chair, deploy your baits, open a cold beverage, and enjoy the scenery! Fishing is not ment to be stressful!
If your not happy with your current fishing spots wheather it be due to restrictions or clueless tourons....DONT fish there! Overcome and adapt!
Sorry, but you didnt have a catagorie for this. 
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| JOHNNYREB wrote: | Signs..signs..everywhere theres signs....
Nowhere along the surf line have i seen a posted " NO FISHING " sign ! Pick your spot, grab a lawn chair, deploy your baits, open a cold beverage, and enjoy the scenery! Fishing is not ment to be stressful!
If your not happy with your current fishing spots wheather it be due to restrictions or clueless tourons....DONT fish there! Overcome and adapt!
Sorry, but you didnt have a catagorie for this. |
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that's why i don't fish with Kweber. 
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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....DOH....get em kurt
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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that's why i don't fish |
^^ fixed ya.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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| justletmein wrote: | | obsessed wrote: |
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that's why i don't fish |
^^ fixed ya. |
ahem....i know you are trying to be cute, but it wasn't you that caught the winning prize at sharksathongs, as i recall, you couldn't catch a sunburn in the desert....how does my avatar look?
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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| obsessed wrote: | | justletmein wrote: | | obsessed wrote: |
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that's why i don't fish |
^^ fixed ya. |
ahem....i know you are trying to be cute, but it wasn't you that caught the winning prize at sharksathongs, as i recall, you couldn't catch a sunburn in the desert....how does my avatar look?
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Photoshopped because you're in it!
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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| JOHNNYREB wrote: | | Signs..signs..everywhere theres signs.... (continued) Nowhere along the surf line have i seen a posted " NO FISHING " sign . . . current fishing spots wheather it be due to restrictions or clueless tourons....DONT fish there! Overcome and adapt! |
JohnnyReb, today it's a canal or dock; tomorrow it could be your beloved surf. I remember some media coverage on how the Feds want to control the Nat'l Seashore, for example. Those regulations, impact on an angler's rights.
The bigger issue here is whether anglers deserve to have their freedom to enjoy fishing curtailed.
Here's another example: In Michigan, the Feds decided that a recreation area and campground was to be fenced off, so that the area could return to its natural state before man's intrusion. Seriously. It happens to border the Platte River, which is the major place where coho salmon swim from Lake Michigan to spawn. Then to discourage some, in many Fall seasons, the Feds dredged the canal and bulldozed the adjacent beaches . . . timed precisely to the salmon run. We're talking heavy equipment earth moving and dredging gear. It's noisy, plus you can feel the vibrations for quite a ways off.
Those anglers have their freedom to fish impaired.
As anglers, should we stand back and look away when our freedoms and reputations are at stake? That's the core issue as I see it. |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Pretty much all of the ship channels are now protected by Homeland security. Run a boat up the Houston ship channel and they'll escort you out with a gun boat. It sucks but what are you going to do? I've caught a lot of nice fish in the port of CC but I never kept or ate any of them. Too much heavy metals for my taste. |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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ChuBri, I agree with you about eating the fish from the channel, if you are fishing to catch-and-filet. I did not know that pleasure boats could not enter the channel. News to me about boats, but thanks for that information.
However, I referenced fishing from shore . . . on the same shore and structure that are open to anybody to do anything . . . except fishing. |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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BB, the gov doesnt WANT to controll it, they DO control it.....with an iron fist!
My bad....broke one of my own rules to discuss my anti gov veiws or Religon with fishing!
BB, theres still plenty of state run beach out there.....Good luck!
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| BobBobber wrote: | | JOHNNYREB wrote: | | Signs..signs..everywhere theres signs.... (continued) Nowhere along the surf line have i seen a posted " NO FISHING " sign . . . current fishing spots wheather it be due to restrictions or clueless tourons....DONT fish there! Overcome and adapt! |
JohnnyReb, today it's a canal or dock; tomorrow it could be your beloved surf. I remember some media coverage on how the Feds want to control the Nat'l Seashore, for example. Those regulations, impact on an angler's rights.
The bigger issue here is whether anglers deserve to have their freedom to enjoy fishing curtailed.
Here's another example: In Michigan, the Feds decided that a recreation area and campground was to be fenced off, so that the area could return to its natural state before man's intrusion. Seriously. It happens to border the Platte River, which is the major place where coho salmon swim from Lake Michigan to spawn. Then to discourage some, in many Fall seasons, the Feds dredged the canal and bulldozed the adjacent beaches . . . timed precisely to the salmon run. We're talking heavy equipment earth moving and dredging gear. It's noisy, plus you can feel the vibrations for quite a ways off.
Those anglers have their freedom to fish impaired.
As anglers, should we stand back and look away when our freedoms and reputations are at stake? That's the core issue as I see it. |
The day that they close PINS, is the day I start burning and destroying things...that and if anyone tries to take my retirement investments.
I could care less about much else besides those two things.
Take those two things away from me, and I have nothing else to lose...and I will act accordingly.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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DITTO.....!!!
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Reserch "agenda 21" I think you will see why this is happening |
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